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  1. #1
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    Mock Hilton/Westgate Super Contest?

    I understand that Jeff and Bettorsworld is sponsoring the both the College and Pro Football weekly contest. THANKS JEFF!!

    I haven't scrolled through to see if the annual Mock Super Contest is still going to happen?

    I am interest in participating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taxman View Post
    I understand that Jeff and Bettorsworld is sponsoring the both the College and Pro Football weekly contest. THANKS JEFF!!

    I haven't scrolled through to see if the annual Mock Super Contest is still going to happen?

    I am interest in participating.
    Not sure what to tell you Tax Man regarding the Mock Hilton NFL Super contest.

    A Staple contest here at Bettors World seems to be in Jeopardy danger of loss, harm, or failure.

    The main issue as I understand it is the complexity to accept payments (Pay pal is out). There is also equal weight of finding an administrator to
    run the contest. Jeff has opined on this earlier.

    We need a work around with all members here at Bettors World to bring our combined talent together to make this happen.

    Make no mistake about it. This contest draws the best in the world to play. They come from all over the world to join just ask our sharks where
    they are from and you might be surprised. Yes this is contest has the attention of many.

    Some How some way The Mock Hilton Year 7 has got to live for another year.

  3. #3
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    Just send money orders or certified checks??

  4. #4
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    There has to be solution to send online payments? I'm in the UK and I don't know what a check (or as we say cheque) or money order is!

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    LEAGUE SAFE

    https://www.leaguesafe.com/HowItWorks

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    fantasy league dues online, but also the security of knowing your league dues will be paid out at the end
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    It seems to be up to Jeff's Accountant as accepting all that PayPal money creates some accounting problems for him. Sounds like we need an escrow service like League Safe that Dinger recommends, although they will take a piece of the pie. Or Jeff mentioned Venmo, which is like PayPal but maybe does not create the accounting problem that PayPal does.

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    We also need someone to run the contest. It is very time consuming. I am running one at my office, and with just 12 people playing, it takes a lot of time.

    I am also in with a group of 4 other guys in the Real Westgate contest. This will be my first time in the real thing. Looking forward to it.

    Hopefully someone will step up and solve these issues. I hate to see the BW Mock Hilton/Westgate contest die like this.

  8. #8
    Monroe Eaford has run the Mock Hilton very efficiently for years. I hadn't heard that he wasn't up for it this year, so I think we are good as far as that goes. Just need to work out the payment system.

  9. #9
    Hope this happens. Gotta make my yearly donation.

  10. #10
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    Guys - I think league safe is the way to go.

    Here's a couple of links/opinions

    https://forums.footballguys.com/foru...the-real-cost/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfoot...afe_or_paypal/

    http://forum.dynastyleaguefootball.c...13329&start=15

    It solves the problems on my end.

    Let me know.

    In the past, we have started promoting the contest in July. We are way behind. So, expect a lower turnout. But it's essential that we make a decision immediately.

    Jeff

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    LeagueSafe will be good. Just requires some little effort on our part to sign up. I just signed up. Takes 60 seconds. You can use your Google email to sign up.

    They don't even take a % of the pot.
    They just make some money when they charge your credit card - 3%, and $3 to send you a Check if you win.

    Looks like they don't take PayPal or Bitcoin. Just credit or debit card.

    I say set it up Jeff and send an email to everyone on your Bettorsworld email list who has played any contest before.

    We can then start promoting to our friends.

    The Boys can help promote from above!

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    I've signed up to leaguesafe and it works for international customers - took 60 seconds. Cool!

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    Just signed up at League safe

    Carpet
    Joliet Jake
    Corn Picker

  14. #14
    OK, I signed up. It seems that if The Commissioner(Jeff) signs up and then sends an e mail invite to each of the members, we'll get $10 added to the pot for each signup? Am I reading that wrong? Maybe some free added prize money?

  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by The Guesser View Post
    OK, I signed up. It seems that if The Commissioner(Jeff) signs up and then sends an e mail invite to each of the members, we'll get $10 added to the pot for each signup? Am I reading that wrong? Maybe some free added prize money?
    I think the $10 only comes if the person you sign up starts a league.

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    upon further review.......I don't think this will work.

    Our contest does not fit into the definition of "fantasy sports".

    There's a good chance we'd get a couple weeks into the contest and then potentially have a problem.....

  17. #17
    Venmo is pretty easy. The only downside is non US players, if we have any, can't use it. Maybe those outside US could send Checks to Jeff, or someone can act as a go between, get paypaled the money by international users, and then venmo the money to Jeff? I'd be willing to do that, but one drawback is I won't be available for that after Sept 4, as I'm going into the hospital for a few days. Also, is Monroe still willing to to the scoring? Haven't seen him around? Hope we can somehow get it together and continue this long standing tradition.

  18. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettorsworld View Post
    upon further review.......I don't think this will work.

    Our contest does not fit into the definition of "fantasy sports".

    There's a good chance we'd get a couple weeks into the contest and then potentially have a problem.....
    To many winning our picks each week is a Fantasy so We qualify

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    Points awarded based on the statistics (final score) of the game? Sounds like fantasy sports to me....

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    what about this, http://legacy.contestgeneral.com/pickem.php . Not looked into if they charge fees or anything, just seen it from other contests.

  21. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by winandwin View Post
    what about this, http://legacy.contestgeneral.com/pickem.php . Not looked into if they charge fees or anything, just seen it from other contests.
    They charge fees. They also don't hold $$$$. It seems we don't need a site to house the contest. Doing it here works out fine, as long as someone is willing to score it like Monroe has done. We just need an effective, easy way to get the money to Jeff.

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    Count me in

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    The only logical way to do this is to let a trusted member accept Paypal payment and run the contest. I'll do both if anyone is up for that.

  24. #24
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    I trust Dragon to run.

  25. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by dragon1952 View Post
    The only logical way to do this is to let a trusted member accept Paypal payment and run the contest. I'll do both if anyone is up for that.
    Yes. This is the way to go. I trust dragon1952. Long time member.

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