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  • The Unbearable Lightness of Being and Sportsbetting

    A couple of weeks ago, when I did a post called "Beyond Probability," Squirming for Action, a BW member, suggested that I read a book titled "The Unbearable Lightness of Being." He suggested that the book might provide consolation and philosopical perspective relative to my almost unbelievable streak of losing games that I ended up heavy on while scalping. I thanked him for his suggestion and told him that I would read the book and let him know what I thought.

    "The Unbearable Lighness of Being," by Milan Kundera, is a novel that falls within the genre of existentialist literature. The writer, who now resides in France, has obviously been strongly influenced by Nietzsche and Sartre.

    I am very familiar with existentialism. In fact, I began my foray into into this philsophy by reading Alber Camus' novels while in high school. And in college, I became so intrigued with existential phenomenolgy--existentialism applied to sociology--that I ended up majoring in sociology.

    However, to make a long story short, before I'd graduated from college I had already lost all interest in existentialism. Instead, esoteric Eastern philosophy became, and still is, my passion. Eastern philosphy includes and transcends anything that existentialism has to offer.

    The problem with existentialism is that it offers no Solution. Sartre summarizes existentialism as offering "no exit." Consequently, it is ultimately a one-dimensional philosphy that over-emphasizes the dark side of life.

    To summarize: although Kundera is a marvelous stylist, I learned nothing new from the book. The truth is, I no longer have an interest in existentialism or fiction.

    Regarding dealing with adversity in sportsbetting, the answer on a conceptual level is having a philosophical or larger-context outlook. On a radical level, the Answer is transcending the self-contraction, which is the root cause of all suffering.


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    It's quite interesting that the concept of Existentialism (at least the American view), was derived from the writings of three political activists and not intellectial purists and was not broadly applied until the 1950's when Sartre attemped to describe his own philosophies. Although Sartre is widely acknowledged as popularizing the concept, despite being extremely contradicting, alot of this should be credited to self-promotion. Personally, I feel that Nietzsche was the most influencial of all of them. But there lies one of the problems with existentialism. It really cannot be reduced to any "collective" set of tenets. Sartre eventually abandoned his own definition and claimed a conversion to Marxism.

    I agree that existentialism does not provide or even suggest any answers. In my opinion, it is a very contradictory and gloomy concept, based on despair and the concept that life is a futile sruggle against forces that are in opposition of the individual and that sadness and boredom are at the core of humanity. Furthermore, life may be without meaning or at least meaning that we can understand and the search for logic is futile.......

    Those concepts don't fly with me although I do enjoy some of Camus' writings and whenever I have an hour or two to kill, I can always choose to read The Stranger for the 87th time........

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    • #3
      Reno's eastern philosophy must be extraordinarily esoteric. At least it is unfamiliar to me. Sure you can generalize and say existentialism is inclusive within eastern philosophies. But to dismiss existentialism for not providing an Answer? Where is the Answer in eastern philosophies? The Answer is no Answer (sorry Iverson).

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      • #4
        reno

        may i ask at what point in your life you started betting sports? Did you first work in the 'rat race' for a while and develop an interest in betting sports later? I'm assuming you didn't enter university with a view to being a pro gambler afterwards? I've wondered how pros made the choice to go pro -- i mean it's not like a career counsellor recommends to anyone at high school that they might gamble for a living.

        If you felt like sharing i'd be really interested. If not, no worries whatsoever.

        If anyone else wanted to say how they got into this 'game' that would be awesome too.

        Cheers

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        • #5
          I have a shelf in my home of my 25 favorite novels. "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" is on it. I haven't read it in at least 10 years, but I remember it as being stylistically very original and politically rare, in that it was somewhat anti-left. In modern American fiction, the only allowed politics are leftist, so his centrist novel struck me, the essential difference between The Turner Diaries and The Handmaid's Tale eluding me.
          Reno, you said you didn't learn anything from it. I'm not sure I could articulate having "learned" anything specific, in terms of philosophy, from any novel ever. I couldn't say what I learned from Gatsby, Swann's Way, Madame Bovary or On The Road, beyond the obvious details of another time and place, which I don't think you were referring to. (Although, actually, I also remember the novel as being outstanding in it's depiction of life under communism's inherent oppression).
          If I was to suggest what someone could learn from the novel, relating to the emotional challenges of sports betting, I'd say, "perspective" and "humor."
          In any case, I commend you for reading the book at all, and posting your thoughts.
          I was at a card game a few years back, carrying a book. Someone asked me what I was reading. I held it up and said "Dos Passos."
          I was met with blank stares all around.

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          • #6
            PaytoPlay, as a high school senior I read "The Stranger" and "The Plague" by Albert Camus, and I began to view life differently. In college, after reading "Siddhartha" and "Steppenwolfe" by Herman Hesse, I began to study Eastern philosophy. The aforementioned novels provided me with learning experiences that
            changed my life. So, novels can be a real catalyst for self-transformation.

            Marlowe, the Answer in Eastern philosphy is not in the philosophy; it is in what it points to, which is the Radiant Transcendental Life Consciousness that is prior to and beyond the self-contraction. The self-contraction is an un-Enlightened individual's moment-to-moment activity, or habit-pattern, of contracting the infinite Field of Consciousness-Light-Energy into a separate-self sensation. The self-contraction
            is like a fist clenching in the midst of space. Enlightenment is opening the fist, which is accomplished through real meditation. Real Meditation is the discipline of persisting as your True Nature, which is effortless, free Consciousness-Beingness.

            Fred, I moved to Vegas in 1983-1984 to bet sports. I met the right guys and became a middler/scalper/money-mover. Before betting sports, I worked at various jobs, and I hated all of them.

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            • #7
              great topic, I'm going to go out and aquire a few of these books. Reno, could you reccomend the best one to start with for Eastern philosphy?

              As for my start in sports betting, in 2nd year university I originally upped with Good Olde Gary Bowman's SportsActionInternational after reading about them in some football preview magazine in September (and because our local guy was constantly screwing us with juiced lines on the favorites - which of course was all I played back then) and was betting 1 four game $100 nfl parlay every week. Needless to say, I quickly ran through my original dime deposit (in ten weeks in fact, surprise, surprise), then sent them more, pretty much lost all that too. The life changing moment for me was reading "The new Gamblers Bible" by Arthur S. Reber. He has about a one page paragraph on scalping money lines in baseball. That did it for me. Since then for the last 4 years or so, it was no more betting. It turned me into the vulture that I am today.

              Well that and finding a 70cent scalp on my first ever bases game. A Mariners game with the Big Unit pitching as I recall between Bowmans and EZBets.

              [This message has been edited by Phil (edited 05-21-2000).]
              yes

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              • #8
                Phil, this is my recommended Eastern philosophy reading list, with author in parenthesis:

                Introductory Books:

                Be Here Now (Baba Ram Dass)
                No Boundary (Ken Wilber)
                Yoga (Georg Fuerstein)

                Outstanding Books:

                The Knee of Listening (Adi Da)
                The Method of the Siddhas (Adi Da)
                The Teachings of Ramana Maharshi (Arthur Osborne)
                First and Last Freedom (J. Krishnamurti)
                Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind (Suzuli Roshi)
                The Zen Teaching of Huang Po (John Blofeld)
                The Cycle of Day and Night (Namkai Norbu)
                Teachings of Tibetan Yoga (Garma C.C. Chang)
                The Golden Letters (John Reynolds)
                The Doctrine of Vibration (Mark Dyczkowski)
                The Triadic Heart of Siva (Paul Muller-Ortega)
                The Doctrine of Recognition ( Jaideva Singh)

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                • #9
                  kudos.
                  yes

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                  • #10
                    I never received my merit badge in esoteric Eastern philosophy, although I do have a well-worn copy of "Be Here Now", which entertained me during my college years, especially the early chapters dealing with the psylocibin experiments at Harvard.

                    Nice thread

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                    • #11
                      Anybody have any novels or memoirs specifically about gambling they'd care to recommend?

                      My top three, now all out of print, but available from a used bookstore search engine, would be the following:

                      Bookie: My Life in Disorganized Crime (Talcum)

                      The Loser (Hoffman) [Memoir of a compulsive gambler]

                      The National Football Lottery (Merchant) [Sportswriter gets advance to write a book on handicapping football]

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                      • #12
                        agree with Reno on the Kundera book

                        style, but nothing too interesting

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                        • #13
                          Since we're doing 'Gamblers on Books'. Any thoughts on “Atlas Shrugged” by Ayn Rand anyone.

                          Her work and thoughts are not well known in Australia.

                          Having been brought up in a pro union, anti-conservative (economically), government intervention supporting, liberal social democracy vibe I found this book to be exhilarating. Utter personal responsibilty! No holds barred free market! Great food for thought I found. Especially as a contrast to my background.

                          Ironically the only people i know who sympathise with these ideas economically (free market) also want the Government to BAN (!!??) films like 'American Beauty' due to the 'bad messages/morals it sends/supports'.

                          These friends are part of what is, thankfully, Australia's very small Christian Right (wrong!).

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                          • #14
                            Well, not many people will go for societies like that where transactions are not enforceable easily

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                            • #15
                              Fred, I liked the way The Fountainhead ends better than Atlas Shrugged. Somebody should get a copy of the Fountainhead to Bill Gates. I would love to see Bill Gates follow the example of Howard Roarke--the individualist architect in the Fountainhead who blew up his creation just to stick it to all of the parasitic socialists.

                              Gates could buy a whole night on network TV and blow up all copies of Windows source code and laugh at Butch Reno and her Soccer Moms.


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