Who Is Really At Fault?????

[thedevil]

Today we have another stiff job or hopefully only a slow pay. But whose fault is it really.

Not taking sides but stating a few facts.

Boomer you had 100 dimes in three places I never heard of. Where do you find these places???

Most of these books have ample reserves to handle all the regular customers. Some not knowing the business think they can open the doors turn on the faucet and the money rolls in. That's not the case.

When books made good money, they worked in small apartments with a few phones, little overhead and customers that only bet with that office. Now everyone has 20 offices and nobody lays a bad number.

All the offshores battle for the same customers, pay high salaries, phone bills that you can't believe, pick up the fees for WU and credit cards along with bank transfers. Then on top of all that they put themselves in no win situations with Scalpers. Toss in a few games that fall on the number. Throw in some advertising dollars and now we'll add 10-25% sign-up or re-up bonus' and now we wonder why they can't pay or why they could be so stupid as to wan't to go to a 20c baseball line.

Bottom line; IMO the casual bettor should never have a problem betting with any reasonable size offshore book. The guys that risk little and pitt book against book will be the ones that have problems as when a book goes bad they will be the last to get paid.

THE DEVIL

[Ronbets]

Devil,

Spoken from a veteran thats been around. 100% accurate on all counts. Knowledgeable rebuttals will be few and far between. The big fish always eat up the little guys.

[JohnnyDeMarco]

Devil,
Well said. I've been preaching this for 4 months here. Offshore establishments better have huge funding or they are in trouble. This Al Ross guy is a punk. I've heard today that he stiffed alot of people at Island Casino.

[JohnnyDeMarco]

Devil,
What would you do if some one used their "people" to reload just to get the signup bonus? This is a sticky question. Whether it happened or not I do not know. But if it did what should happen? I think the way it is setup now you would have to give everyone that calls in the same treatment.

[thedevil]

JD!!

Have had this discussion with many offshore books. When you offer an initial 10% sign up bonus, what happens is the customer loses his deposit. When he calls back and you don't want to give him another 10% he simply becomes another person. What the book now has is a customer number that is now dead.

That's where the re-up bonus started. If
you had the chance to see the active customers versus the "dead" customers at some of these books I would say the deadwood outdistances the live customers by 5-1.

As far as was this shady. In my opinion, NO.
This is done all the time by customers looking for bonus money from the books. I think the books are at fault for offering the bonus' that they do trying to lure customers from the other stores. One day they will stop being so cut throat and realize that they are hurting themselves by giving away the store to have the customer.


When that happens the customers won't be signing up with an outfit that gives away more, but will be signing up with a store that serves their needs better or simply gives them better service.

When that time comes there will be less complaints about getting stiffed or slow payed because the books that get your dollars will be getting them becaus they deserved to get your money. Not because they gave you 30% and a box of tootsie rolls.


THE DEVIL