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  • #31
    Originally posted by reno:
    Reality, point blank, did you or did you not run the lines at a sportsbook that kicked guys out for beating you to the steam and also for buying back? A simple yes or no will suffice and will also serve to clarify issues discussed.
    RENO,
    I'LL GIVE YOU THE COURTESY OF RESPONDING TO THIS UNLIKE YOU, WHO DIDN'T GIVE ME THE COURTESY TO RESPOND TO ME, WHEN I PRESENTED YOU WITH THE RENO/REALITY $10,000 CHALLENGE.

    WHERE A SIMPLE YES OR NO WOULD HAVE ALSO DONE.

    YES, MEANING,SEE YOU IN VEGAS,I ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE.

    NO,MEANING I DECLINE BECAUSE YOU GOT ME HERE AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE $10,000.

    SIMPLE.

    BACK TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND PLEASE REFER TO DOT MIX'S TOPIC ENTITTLED:BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE.

    THAT SHOULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

    REALITY





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    • #32
      Forgive me for gettin in on this thread so late, but I wasn't able to read yesterday, and there are a few things in here I would like to add or respond to.
      First, to thedevil,(your initial post)
      My take is this. You are right you don't want to wait for the action(we are assuming syndicate action). The ideal number would be the limit of the order. i.e. the worst number these guys will play. If you know that number hang it and let everybody play, or at least until your plate is full. That way, you will minimize the wise angle and maximize the juice(because now they will play every order. I don't know if there is anyway to get data on this, but it would be the greatest test of player vs bookie to date. I further agree that the way to deal with wise guys is make them foot the bills, since basically they are just trying to be in business with you.

      Reno,
      As to why a BM doesn't want scalpers and to end the myth that a number is hung to get buyback. No. No. No. The line is not raised to get buyback. It is raised to make less scrupulous players lay bad numbers and therefore increase house edge. Why would a book want to share their already small advantage with a scalper?

      Rich Rosenthal

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      • #33
        DOOGIE STYLE,

        GO TO HELL!

        CAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL FIND THE DEVIL!

        HE'LL BE WAITING FOR YOU.

        I'D HANDLE THIS MYSELF,BUT I'M A LITTLE TYPED OUT...

        I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE DEVIL RESPOND TO THIS...

        OPENING LINE:

        DEVIL -1.8O CLASSY,IN SHAPE VETERAN

        D.S. + 1.70 DOOGIE STYLE,
        JUST THAT, DOG S-H-I-T !

        WAGERING IS NOW OPEN!

        REALITY

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        • #34
          REALITY the odds you made are a joke. Something you don't know. When I walked into the room The Devil always stepped aside. And there was a REASON for it.

          Again you are writing about something you don't know anything about.

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          • #35
            REALITY I like The Devil/Golden Eagle. I have never had a problem with him. You are the wanabee. Not us.

            What about this:

            The Devil -450
            REALITY +400

            Who is the sharpest between you two? Or who has more class? Or who do people want to post here? Or who has a clue on how to book?

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            • #36
              Doggiestyle,

              Are you saying we know each other??
              If we do how can you possibly say I'm wrong..

              DEVIL

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              • #37
                ...and, Reality, did you or did you not kick me out of the sportsbook you ran for buying back? And could the fact that I strongly criticized that sportsbook in this forum have anything to do with how you targeted me
                with personal attacks over ridiculous issues that offended absolutely no one else in the forum?

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                • #38
                  Great stuff guys. Just some thoughts here:

                  reno, you said this:
                  if I lay -120 with you, then Bandwagoner #1 lays -125, bandwagoner #2 lays -130, I take +125, and the favorite wins, as projected, 54% of the time, you as a bookie will lose money? In fact, you make money, I make money, and the bandwagoners lose.

                  I agree with you 100% and I will also add that when a bookie throws you out for something like this it means this: he has no customers, he has been losing and he realizes he is incompetant and that is his way of striking back.

                  Reality, you said this:
                  I CUT MY B.M. TEETH AS YOU KNOW IN AN OFFICE THAT WAS CRIS BEFORE CRIS EXISTED.

                  Were you in the Dominican Republic in 1992 when Cigar went on TV and said that no one could touch him and them the next day we were all running for the airport because the feds were raiding everyone? Those were great times; if you were there, I'm sure that
                  you could tell reno some of the prostitute stories you should have, fifty bucks gets you whatever you want!!!

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                  • #39
                    SEGUNDO,

                    I AM TALKING ABOUT THE BIGGEST WISEGUY CLEARING HOUSE THERE WAS BEFORE THE GENTLEMAN YOU ARE REFERING TO ROSE TO PROMINENCE...

                    REALITY

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                    • #40
                      Well, I can think of about 5 that would fit into the category that you mentioned but I don't need to know that bad, no use playing the "do you know?" game, I don't have time to sit in front of these forums all day, need to bet. Thanks anyway.

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                      • #41
                        [QUOTE]Originally posted by REALITY:
                        [B] RENO,
                        I'LL GIVE YOU THE COURTESY OF RESPONDING TO THIS UNLIKE YOU, WHO DIDN'T GIVE ME THE COURTESY TO RESPOND TO ME, WHEN I PRESENTED YOU WITH THE RENO/REALITY $10,000 CHALLENGE.

                        WHERE A SIMPLE YES OR NO WOULD HAVE ALSO DONE.

                        YES, MEANING,SEE YOU IN VEGAS,I ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE.

                        NO,MEANING I DECLINE BECAUSE YOU GOT ME HERE AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE $10,000.

                        SIMPLE.

                        BACK TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND PLEASE REFER TO DOT MIX'S TOPIC ENTITTLED:BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE.

                        THAT SHOULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

                        REALITY

                        DEAR BETTORSWORLD FANS,

                        POLAR/ROBBIE/DOGGIE STYLE/LORD MASTER ALSO DIDN'T WANT TO ACCEPT THE LORD MASTER/REASON $10,000 CHALLENGE ACROSS THE STREET.

                        THE FACT THAT YET ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONED MY KNOWLEDGE BUT YET WAS KIND ENOUGH NOT TO TAKE MY MONEY SHOULD TELL YOU ONE THING.

                        I AIN'T THE GREATEST THING THAT EVER WALKED DOWN THE STREET IN THIS BUSINESS,BUT I'M PRETTY GOOD.

                        I NEVER MEANT TO OFFEND ANYBODY BUT I'M SURELY NOT ABOUT TO GET ABUSED BY SOME SELF PROCLAIMED GAMBLING GURU.

                        YOUR NOW OFFICIALLY RETIRED,GUARDIAN ANGEL IN EXHILE,

                        REALITY/REASON





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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by DoggieStyle:
                          REALITY the odds you made are a joke. Something you don't know. When I walked into the room The Devil always stepped aside. And there was a REASON for it.

                          Again you are writing about something you don't know anything about.
                          ROBBIE/POLAR/DOGGIE STYLE/LORD MASTER,

                          I THINK THE DEVIL WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS POST WITH YOU...

                          REALITY/REASON



                          [This message has been edited by REALITY (edited 07-12-2000).]

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                          • #43
                            . . . good grief !

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by REALITY
                              DEVIL,
                              YOU MUST LEAVE THE ORIGINAL NUMBER THERE SO YOU DON'T FIND YOUR WAY ON TO RENO'S GUIDE TO CLONE BOOKMAKERS.

                              IF HE CAN'T BET YOU HOW CAN HE ROB SOME POOR IDIOT WHO OVERMOVES AFTER LOOKING AT THE DON BEST.

                              I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO DINNER WITH YOU TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE BUSINESS BUT AFTER THAT STATEMENT I JUST DON'T KNOW.

                              YOU WOULD REALLY MOVE ON AIR???

                              FOR REAL???

                              NO KIDDING???

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                              • #45
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