the OVERALL most CLONED line

[reno]

When I established my money-moving/scalping-middling group in the mid-80s, we copied what the Jeff N. group--whom I had worked for--was doing. Like Jeff N.,we equipped our runners (messenger bettors) with Motorola radios and stuck them in the main joints, such as the Stardust. Because there was no Don Best service at that time, we had a huge competitive advantage over most players. When the GCB outlawed the radios and cell phones in the sportsbooks, that was the beginning of the end for me. Jeff N. stuck it out for a couple more years after I quit, and then he, too, left the business. Artie, through incomparable contacts and virtually unlimited front money, became a super success...until he crashed and burned, thereby officially signifying the bitter end of the messenger-bettor era.

Thanks, Scott, for both the info and the cruise down memory lane.

[scott]

Ronbets / Scott L...DBC bought Roxys old LVSC(Las Vegas Sports Consultants). DBC is a Silicon Valley outfit that deals mostly in financial info I think. Anyways, they just wanted more info for their tickers etc. so they came up with the sports idea. They were not up to it and were bought out by sportsline.com as far as the LVSC part of it...Scotty

[scott]

Old Man...The GCB outlawed portable phones in books but I didnt like them anyway. We are talking different times and I would protect my allday, everyday customers. They woild stay with us just waiting for a strange # but a mobile phone guy would wreck the board for them then leave. If everyone had acess to them like today, great, but that wasnt the case...Scotty

[OLD MAN]

SCOTTY
OUR PATHS DID CROSS THE SATURDAY BEFORE
THE SUPER BOWL 1986. YOU WERE CHATING WITH A FEW FRIENDS OF MINE WHILE YOU WERE CHASING
THE GUYS WITH PORTABLE PHONES.........

[OLD MAN]

ronbets
too much absolute and tonic..........

[Ronbets]

OLD MAN,

This man is Stardust Scotty ---not ScottK

[OLD MAN]

ronbets
i should have put scotty's name on the
one post.........

[Ronbets]

OLD MAN,

You are on the wrong page!!!!

[Chillin-the-Most]

They may have gone seperate ways but it seema all but Sportsline.com are owned by AWI. Is that not correct?

[OLD MAN]

I use to bother the HELL out of you...
Talked to you on many occasions when you worked for BOWMANS. Remember the interview
you did on tv for CANADIAN FOOTBALL?
How about the "BIG STORE" in COSTA RICA
WHERE THE LINE ORIGINATES-takes a lot of
nerve to get the "SEND OUT" on a game at-40
and open it -41-that's what I call taking a
stand.

While we're on the subject, can anyone tell me why DBC's stock has gone into the toilet?

[Ronbets]

Scotty,

Congrats on your new appointment. Aren't you guys affilliated with DBC?

[scott]

To clear it up their are a number of sports related businesses in the same Grier Dr building. They started out under the same umbrella but have gone many different directions over time. Leroy's, Computer Sports World, Roxy's LVSC & Computer Bookmaking Systems all started out and are still here along with Data Broadcasting Co and Sportsline.com...Scotty

[scott]

Old Man...You are so right. Las Vegas Sports Consultants, i.e. LVSC, is the most copied line. The big offshores and the LV sportsbooks almost ALL get our numbers. They(our #s) might be good or bad, they may be adjusted or put out as is. The point is they will end up on all the boards, screens, sheets and most media outlets in one form or another. Some "geniuses" dont like to admit they use our #s because they have their groupies to con, but thats fine. Kind of funny really when you have all this in perspective. Its entertaining to watch it unfold and to know the legits from the wannabes. Somewhere our paths have had to cross Old Man. Am I right?...Scotty