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    In the real world not many wagers go off at even money. To handle this situation we rewrite the formula for G from Kelly - Part 2 as

    G = (( 1 + B * F ) ^ P) * (( 1 - F ) ^ Q)

    where B is the payoff per dollar wagered.

    If, for example a team were going off at +120 then the value of B would be 1.2. A favourite at -200 would have a B value of 0.50. In the case of an even money wager the value of B is 1 and the formula reduces to what we had in the previous post.

    If you do the calculus thing again you find that the value of F that maximizes G is now

    F = ( B * P - Q ) / B

    If B is set equal to 1, F simplifies to our previous result, P - Q.

    Note that in the general case where B is not equal to 1 the optimum fraction to bet is NOT the same as your potential profit per wager. If you bet 1 dollar, win B dollars with probability P and lose 1 dollar with probability Q then the average profit per dollar wagered is equal to

    B * P - Q * 1 = B * P - Q

    which is not the same as the value of F.

    Since F is the profit divided by the value of B, you bet a greater fraction than your potential profit if you're betting favourites, a smaller fraction if you're betting dogs. You bet a much smaller fraction if you're making long shot plays like parlays.

    Two examples: 100 game samples with a starting capital of 1000 dollars

    1) Betting on +200 dogs so B is 2. Assume we have a P of 0.36 and a Q of 0.64.

    F = ( 2 * 0.36 - 0.64 ) / 2 = 0.04

    profit = 2 * 0.36 - 0.64 = 0.08

    F After 100 games
    ---------------------
    0.01 1072
    0.02 1126
    0.03 1159
    0.04 1171
    0.05 1159
    0.06 1127
    0.07 1075
    0.08 1006
    0.09 925
    0.10 835

    2) Betting on -200 favourites so B is 0.50. Assume we have a P of 0.70 and a Q of 0.30.

    F = ( 0.50 * 0.70 - 0.30 ) / 0.50 = 0.10

    profit = 0.50 * 0.70 - 0.30 = 0.05

    F After 100 games
    ---------------------
    0.05 1208
    0.06 1237
    0.07 1259
    0.08 1276
    0.09 1286
    0.10 1289
    0.11 1286
    0.12 1276
    0.13 1259
    0.14 1235
    0.15 1205

    Note that betting a fraction equal to your potential profit can be serious indeed if you're betting dogs. In the first example betting 0.08 of capital leads to a finishing capital of 1006 dollars, a net win of 6 dollars after 100 games despite the fact that we have an 8 percent ROI (return on investment).

    In general it is not serious to bet a smaller amount than is called for by Kelly. It can be very bad news if you bet a larger amount.

    More to come tomorrow...


  • #2
    Excellent work. Will leave commentary and questions until end of lecture I think.

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    • #3
      Thanks Aussie

      Would trundle these things out a little quicker except am checking and double checking everything to try and avoid having to crrect later on.

      'mute

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      • #4
        As you can say I got careless with the above post and didn't crrect it.

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          • #6
            Perhaps the most comprehensive treatment of kelly wagers that do not go off at even money would be Canadian Statistician's, William Ziemba's, "Winning at the Race Track"...

            ..where UNDERLAYS in the PLACE and SHOW pools were analyzed on "prohibitive favorites" in the last two ra on Wall Streetces of each card.

            This was the parimutuel equivalent of "program trading" in the stock market...

            ..without Black October of 1987


            Originally posted by wintermute
            In the real world not many wagers go off at even money. To handle this situation we rewrite the formula for G from Kelly - Part 2 as

            G = (( 1 + B * F ) ^ P) * (( 1 - F ) ^ Q)

            where B is the payoff per dollar wagered.

            If, for example a team were going off at +120 then the value of B would be 1.2. A favourite at -200 would have a B value of 0.50. In the case of an even money wager the value of B is 1 and the formula reduces to what we had in the previous post.

            If you do the calculus thing again you find that the value of F that maximizes G is now

            F = ( B * P - Q ) / B

            If B is set equal to 1, F simplifies to our previous result, P - Q.

            Note that in the general case where B is not equal to 1 the optimum fraction to bet is NOT the same as your potential profit per wager. If you bet 1 dollar, win B dollars with probability P and lose 1 dollar with probability Q then the average profit per dollar wagered is equal to

            B * P - Q * 1 = B * P - Q

            which is not the same as the value of F.

            Since F is the profit divided by the value of B, you bet a greater fraction than your potential profit if you're betting favourites, a smaller fraction if you're betting dogs. You bet a much smaller fraction if you're making long shot plays like parlays.

            Two examples: 100 game samples with a starting capital of 1000 dollars

            1) Betting on +200 dogs so B is 2. Assume we have a P of 0.36 and a Q of 0.64.

            F = ( 2 * 0.36 - 0.64 ) / 2 = 0.04

            profit = 2 * 0.36 - 0.64 = 0.08

            F After 100 games
            ---------------------
            0.01 1072
            0.02 1126
            0.03 1159
            0.04 1171
            0.05 1159
            0.06 1127
            0.07 1075
            0.08 1006
            0.09 925
            0.10 835

            2) Betting on -200 favourites so B is 0.50. Assume we have a P of 0.70 and a Q of 0.30.

            F = ( 0.50 * 0.70 - 0.30 ) / 0.50 = 0.10

            profit = 0.50 * 0.70 - 0.30 = 0.05

            F After 100 games
            ---------------------
            0.05 1208
            0.06 1237
            0.07 1259
            0.08 1276
            0.09 1286
            0.10 1289
            0.11 1286
            0.12 1276
            0.13 1259
            0.14 1235
            0.15 1205

            Note that betting a fraction equal to your potential profit can be serious indeed if you're betting dogs. In the first example betting 0.08 of capital leads to a finishing capital of 1006 dollars, a net win of 6 dollars after 100 games despite the fact that we have an 8 percent ROI (return on investment).

            In general it is not serious to bet a smaller amount than is called for by Kelly. It can be very bad news if you bet a larger amount.

            More to come tomorrow...

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