B'World pleased to have Frank "Lefty" Rosenthal On Board

[bgeorgia]

We are very pleased to have Frank writing for Bettorsworld. You can read his article right now Read Frank!

[reno]

With Scott Shettler and Stardust "Sonny" posting, and with Lefty Rosenthal writing, Bettorsworld has a near monopoly on the old Stardust stalwarts. And if they can bring in Sam Brown, they'll have a complete monopoly.

[Mojo]

In Frank Rosenthal you have the best of the best. He not only picked the Rams by 7 in the Super Bowl, he correctly picked the final score 23-16. If Frank were allowed in the Vegas sportsbooks today, they would just close shop instead of taking Frank's action. I live in Vegas and I think Frank would agree that the people running the Vegas sportsbooks today are running scared. It is a joke compared to yesteryear.

[greg]

did a search on line on frank was a very good read. Lot of info not on web site.

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[Ronbets]

You guys are omitting the patriarch of the ole Stardust. None other than Yocum. An 80++ Sam Brown still refers to him as the oldtimer. I hear Yocum is still kicking at 90++ back in Cleveland.

[reno]

Ronbets, I remember Yocum. Then, of course, there was Montana Mel and the late crotchety old Freddie. Doggie Style worked as a runner at the Dust for several years, so I'm sure he knows and remembers other unforgettable characters.

[scott]

Ronbets, Reno...Then there is Bobby The Owl, Joe Finesilver, Crazy Jim, Spinner aka Sam Brown, Crying Kenny, The Gorilla Man, Stinky Jim, Montana Mel, Parlay Paulie, Fast Eddie, Bobby Baseball, Herbie Hoops, Tiger Paul, Rocket, another Rocket, Jerry The Hat, Mrs. Jerry The Hat, Suzy Boobs & Brickhouse (two well endowed ladies), Crewcut & Sneakers (same person), Willie The Watch, Black Allen, several Doc's, FM, RD, RJ, Shoes, Big Hank, Major, Sarge, another Sarge. A couple of these names are from my Churchill days. I'll come with more after I think about it some. But as I have stated here before Lefty started the Stardust. Lefty is the Stardust. I posted here before he was way ahead of his time. All I had to do was don't screw it up. Lefty & I were from different Stardust era's but it was like I was handed the keys to a Cadilac, all I had to do was drive and don't wreck it...Scotty (I took it for a pretty good spin though)

[scott]

Doggie...I have to know you. Any hints...Scotty

[scott]

Reno..How could I forget Bycicle & Peddals. He was also way ahead of his time. The other guys were running from joint to joint(pre radios) and you were already there...Scotty

[Ronbets]

You guys mentioned Montana Melvin. He is one of Anheiser/Busch's best Nv consumers. Made 'substance money' by memorizing every division I and II school nicknames. Still going....

[Railbird]

try giving him your drink tickets,and then ask him about area 51.

[reno]

Railbird, if you'd given Montana Mel some wheatgrass juice, I'm sure he would have started drinking that instead of beer.

Scott, I'll never forget Joe Finesilver, whom everyone called "Baseball Joe." I bought his food stamps, so he would have wagering money. Baseball Joe even made it down to Caliente in TJ, where he continued to hoodwink suckers into fronting him money for his infamous baseball parlays. Wasn't he 86ed from the Dust for conning sucker-tourists into fronting him money?

[DoggieStyle]

Yocum was one of the nicest people you will ever meet.

Sam Brown was also very nice if you didn't bother him while he was working.

Montana Mel was... well he was.... different. He made it tough on himself because he couldn't behave himself and nobody really wanted him hanging around their Casino.

Freddy was the Tout of all touts. He would tell you how much he liked the Devils in the morning. Later in the day you would hear him tell everyone the Devils couldn't beat a Minor league team. You would say something to him and he would tell you, YOU were crazy! He was a great person though, always happy.

DoggieStyle was trying to keep out of trouble even then, Because he is really good at that. It's just his nature. Scotty I'm sure you didn't like me, but it was just the situation.

I will say again that I was lucky enough to be very sharp and was needed to work at the Stardust because the Stardust was the CENTER of the Betting world back then. I was much more valuable being at the Dust than any place else! And I think it helped me learn the business faster than anything else I could have done.

It's too bad the Las Vegas books have all died. I would have liked to run that place also, except for the fact it was a Casino.

What about Boston? He was wild wasn't he?

And Sam's buddy Hershey..Is that how you spell his name?

And Donny (Best) didn't someone pull a gun on him at the lottery in the early days?

Yes it was a great time..............

[scott]

Reno...He probably was, I cant remember. But if he was it was quickly forgotten. Joe used to call his sponsers "apples". Joe could put together a hand and once even ran it up to over $25,000. He couldnt stand success and was broke and comfortable back sleeping on the roof of Gary Austins. He slept up there a lot. Joe was rummored dead so many times he could have been a cat. He will never cash out as long as there are still "apples" to pick. About Mel. His favorite food to go along, with his warm beer, was raw hotdogs. He loved them so much he mainlined them. Quick Montana story. He was usually 86d so he would hang around the phones outside and pretend he was talking. He would copy the guy next to him as he read the line. Of course someone pretended to read some really outlandish #s and of course Mel sent them out. He only got a buck a month and had to pay for the calls. True story...Scotty

[scott]

Doggie...If you had what Boston lost, as in can't find, we could both quit. He lost more BIG tickets, $5,000 chips and even a $70,000 Coevette (he lent it to a "friend"). It meant nothing to him as long as he was in action. He was a really good kid. The day Crazy Jim pulled a gun over his spot in line was the watershed event. The next morning we started the lottery. By the way that was his real name. He had it legally changed. Im not certain if it was before or after he ran for the governor of Wisconsin. Its true!...Scotty