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Originally posted by ajax50:
Heres the story.When Sportbet decided to go on the don best screen a few weeks ago I transferred money from another book because I like accounts at all screen outs.Nothing is more annoying to me than seeing a number you need and not being able to grab it.Well, after playing there for several weeks last Sunday I played Memphis(xfl) at a pick online at Sportbet for a dime.This is their online limit for all games,XFL,hockey,baskets,etc.At the time the don best screen had Memphis 1.5/2.Fifteen minutes later I called their office because the line was still at pick at Sportbet,and asked what was the line on Memphis.The clerk,as with every bet I made goes to the bm(who I assume to be Chester),and says xxxx wants the line on Memphis.The clerk comes back,reads me pick, and I say give me 2 dimes on Memphis.The clerk says I can give you 1 dime to which I say,"fine".
YOUR SAVVY ENOUGH TO HAVE POST UP MONEY AT ALL THE DON BEST BOOKS ON THE SCREEN BUT WHEN YOU ASK FOR TWO DIMES AND THE CLERK SAID ALL YOU COULD HAVE WAS A DIME YOU WEREN'T SAVVY ENOUGH TO ASK IS THAT YOUR LIMIT ON THE XFL?
OR WAS THAT PICK ON THE GAME JUST TOO IRRESISTABLE TO PASS UP ON THIS CALL WHEN THE SCREEN WAS PAINTED -1.5?
YOU ARE SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE THE PLAY AT GOOD LINE BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO QUESTION AM I EXCEEDING THE LIMIT?
HOW COME THIS NEVER DAWNED ON YOU?
THE WEBSITE SAID IT WAS ONLY GOOD FOR A DIME.
YOU WANTED TWO DIMES AND WERE TOLD YOU COULD ONLY HAVE A DIME.
WHAT MADE YOU THINK YOU COULD HAVE TWO DIMES AND WHEN MAKING THIS BET WHY DIDN'T YOU THINK TO INQUIRE ABOUT THE LIMIT AND WHAT YOU COULD HAVE?
HOW CAN YOU BE SMART ENOUGH TO AMASS ALL THE CASH YOU NEED TO POST UP AT ALL YOUR FAVORITE DON BEST BOOKS,BUT NOT SMART ENOUGH TO ASK WHAT IS THE LIMIT ON THE XFL AFTER YOUR REQUEST FOR A TWO DIME BET WAS DENIED?
Readback given,I hang up.Lo and behold ,the next day I see I'm credited with only 1 dime.I get "Steve" in customer service who tells me that thier "house limit" on xfl games is a dime and since you bet 2 dimes we voided the second bet.Steve told me that my play that I called in was handwritten and when they inputted the play,they saw that I already played online for their"house limit".As an aside,I've started to use this term in my own house with my kids."The house limit on dinner rolls is 3 or 2 hours of tv is the house limit".I felt screwed.Email Jeff who attempts to get my money back to no avail.Jeff,thank you for your efforts.Next call to Sportbet to close my account.If they can screw me out of 1 dime,they can out of 26000.Transfer it to Rio,I tell Chester in my one and only(hopefully) conversation with their bm.He tells me that he is pissed I went to the forums to air the problem.Well Chester,that didn't occur at all.The only person who knew of this was Jeff at Bettorsworld who interceded on my behalf.Chester also told me that I had been told of their limits.WRONG.First off,this was the first ever xfl game and the first I ever bet with Sportbet.
AND AS AN ARTICULATE PLAYER AS YOU APPEAR TO BE FROM YOU POST YOU NEVER THOUGHT TO INQUIRE WHAT THE TOTAL LIMIT YOU COULD HAVE ON THE XFL WAS?
HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
YOU HAVE IN EXCESS OF 25 DIMES POSTED UP SO YOUR OBVIOUSLY A PLAYER,BUT YOU NEVER ONCE SOUGHT TO CLARIFY WHAT SPORTBETS LIMIT WAS ON THE XFL?
Did your office have telepathy and say dont bet more than 1 dime on xfl games? Also,I've never bet a game to my knowledge more than once so you would have no reason to warn me.The bottom line is if I lost I would be debited -2200,but since your office got middled you decided to minimize your losses.If posts like this and others(see MW and trujillos dilemma)cause people to rethink where they send money than my goal is accomplished.There are 20 or so offshore outs on don best and of those with no money problems they are all 1000%.Crap like this would never happen at any other book on the screen.Mark my words,this is NOT an isolated incident and will happen again.Chester,for $1000,I hope that it causes your shop many more times that in bad press and lost business.
Heres the story.When Sportbet decided to go on the don best screen a few weeks ago I transferred money from another book because I like accounts at all screen outs.Nothing is more annoying to me than seeing a number you need and not being able to grab it.Well, after playing there for several weeks last Sunday I played Memphis(xfl) at a pick online at Sportbet for a dime.This is their online limit for all games,XFL,hockey,baskets,etc.At the time the don best screen had Memphis 1.5/2.Fifteen minutes later I called their office because the line was still at pick at Sportbet,and asked what was the line on Memphis.The clerk,as with every bet I made goes to the bm(who I assume to be Chester),and says xxxx wants the line on Memphis.The clerk comes back,reads me pick, and I say give me 2 dimes on Memphis.The clerk says I can give you 1 dime to which I say,"fine".
YOUR SAVVY ENOUGH TO HAVE POST UP MONEY AT ALL THE DON BEST BOOKS ON THE SCREEN BUT WHEN YOU ASK FOR TWO DIMES AND THE CLERK SAID ALL YOU COULD HAVE WAS A DIME YOU WEREN'T SAVVY ENOUGH TO ASK IS THAT YOUR LIMIT ON THE XFL?
OR WAS THAT PICK ON THE GAME JUST TOO IRRESISTABLE TO PASS UP ON THIS CALL WHEN THE SCREEN WAS PAINTED -1.5?
YOU ARE SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE THE PLAY AT GOOD LINE BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO QUESTION AM I EXCEEDING THE LIMIT?
HOW COME THIS NEVER DAWNED ON YOU?
THE WEBSITE SAID IT WAS ONLY GOOD FOR A DIME.
YOU WANTED TWO DIMES AND WERE TOLD YOU COULD ONLY HAVE A DIME.
WHAT MADE YOU THINK YOU COULD HAVE TWO DIMES AND WHEN MAKING THIS BET WHY DIDN'T YOU THINK TO INQUIRE ABOUT THE LIMIT AND WHAT YOU COULD HAVE?
HOW CAN YOU BE SMART ENOUGH TO AMASS ALL THE CASH YOU NEED TO POST UP AT ALL YOUR FAVORITE DON BEST BOOKS,BUT NOT SMART ENOUGH TO ASK WHAT IS THE LIMIT ON THE XFL AFTER YOUR REQUEST FOR A TWO DIME BET WAS DENIED?
Readback given,I hang up.Lo and behold ,the next day I see I'm credited with only 1 dime.I get "Steve" in customer service who tells me that thier "house limit" on xfl games is a dime and since you bet 2 dimes we voided the second bet.Steve told me that my play that I called in was handwritten and when they inputted the play,they saw that I already played online for their"house limit".As an aside,I've started to use this term in my own house with my kids."The house limit on dinner rolls is 3 or 2 hours of tv is the house limit".I felt screwed.Email Jeff who attempts to get my money back to no avail.Jeff,thank you for your efforts.Next call to Sportbet to close my account.If they can screw me out of 1 dime,they can out of 26000.Transfer it to Rio,I tell Chester in my one and only(hopefully) conversation with their bm.He tells me that he is pissed I went to the forums to air the problem.Well Chester,that didn't occur at all.The only person who knew of this was Jeff at Bettorsworld who interceded on my behalf.Chester also told me that I had been told of their limits.WRONG.First off,this was the first ever xfl game and the first I ever bet with Sportbet.
AND AS AN ARTICULATE PLAYER AS YOU APPEAR TO BE FROM YOU POST YOU NEVER THOUGHT TO INQUIRE WHAT THE TOTAL LIMIT YOU COULD HAVE ON THE XFL WAS?
HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE?
YOU HAVE IN EXCESS OF 25 DIMES POSTED UP SO YOUR OBVIOUSLY A PLAYER,BUT YOU NEVER ONCE SOUGHT TO CLARIFY WHAT SPORTBETS LIMIT WAS ON THE XFL?
Did your office have telepathy and say dont bet more than 1 dime on xfl games? Also,I've never bet a game to my knowledge more than once so you would have no reason to warn me.The bottom line is if I lost I would be debited -2200,but since your office got middled you decided to minimize your losses.If posts like this and others(see MW and trujillos dilemma)cause people to rethink where they send money than my goal is accomplished.There are 20 or so offshore outs on don best and of those with no money problems they are all 1000%.Crap like this would never happen at any other book on the screen.Mark my words,this is NOT an isolated incident and will happen again.Chester,for $1000,I hope that it causes your shop many more times that in bad press and lost business.
I CONTEND YOU SAW A NUMBER UNAVAILABLE ANYWHERE ELSE AND YOU SOUGHT TO BET IT FOR WHATEVER EXTRA YOU COULD GET.
YOU WERE TOLD YOU COULD ONLY HAVE A DIME WHEN YOU ASKED FOR TWO,BUT YOU NEVER ASKED FOR A CLARIFICATION ON WHAT EXACTLY WAS THE LIMIT.
WHY?
YOU WANTED TO CLAIM IGNORANCE OF THE LIMIT TO GET THAT EXTRA BET AT A PRICE THAT WASN'T AVAILABLE ANYWHERE ELSE.
HAD YOU ASKED FOR THE CLARIFICATION YOU COULD HAVE NEVER MADE THE EXTRA BET BECAUSE YOU WERE ON TAPE BEING TOLD WHAT THE LIMIT WAS.
LIKE IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE FOR BREAKING IT,IGNORANCE OF A BOOKS LIMITS ARE NO EXCUSE TO EXCEED IT...
ONE OTHER THING GO LOOK AT MY POSTS IN REGARDS TO PLAYERS GETTING PAID.
FOR SOMEONE ON THIS SIDE OF THE COUNTER I'M AS PRO PLAYER AS YOU CAN GET.
ESPECIALLY PLAYERS WHO HAVE THEIR MONEY POSTED UP.
NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER SHOULD A POST UP PLAYER WHO MAKES LEGITIMATE WAGERS PRIOR TO POST EVER HAVE TO HEAR THE WORDS SLOW PAY OR NO PAY.
AN OVER LIMIT PLAY IS NOT A LEGITIMATE PLAY,ESPECIALLY WHEN THE WEB SITE HEADING FOR THE PARTICULAR SPORT STATES OVER LIMIT WAGERS WILL BE DELETED.
REALITY
[This message has been edited by REALITY (edited 02-09-2001).]
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