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    DEFINITION OF A WISEGUY AS PERTAINING TO THE DISCLAIMER,"WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE THE WAGERS OF ALL PROFESSIONAL SYNDICATE BETTING GROUPS"

    A PLAYER THAT PLAYS ALL HIS PLAYS ON MONDAY AND THEY ALL MOVE TWO POINTS HIS WAY AND HE WINS EVERY SINGLE GAME IS A "WINNER" AND NOT A WISEGUY AND WOULD NEVER BE THROWN OUT WHERE I'M SITTING BECAUSE I HAD THE WHOLE WEEK TO WORK THE GAME.

    SAME THING GOES FOR A PLAYER WHO PLAYS IN THE MORNING AND ALL HIS PLAYS MOVE TWO POINTS AND HE WINS ALL HIS PLAYS IS A "WINNER" AND WOULD NEVER BE THROWN OUT WHERE I'M SITTING BECAUSE I HAD ALL AFTERNOON TO WORK THE GAME.

    FOR THE LAST TIME THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF A WISEGUY AS IT PERTAINS TO THE DISCLAIMER,"WISEGUYS NOT WELCOME"

    FROM THE LEXICON OF REALITY:

    WISEGUY-AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS THE ORIGINATOR OF A PLAY OR SOMEONE WHO IS WORKING IN CONCERT WITH THE ORIGINATOR TO MOVE THE ORIGINATORS PLAYS INTO AS MANY OFFICES AS POSSIBLE IN THE SHORTEST PERIOD OF TIME AT THE EXACT PRICE THE ORDER IS PUT OUT AT THUS EFFECTIVELY WIPING OUT THE NUMBER IN THE MARKETPLACE WITHIN 30 TO 60 SECONDS AND CREATING THE GAMBLING PHENOMENON KNOWN AS "STEAM".

    HE DOES THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THATS ALL HE DOES.

    IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER HE IS LOOKING FOR HE PASSES AND DOES NOT PLAY.

    NEVER TO BE CONFUSED WITH SOMEONE WHO IS MAKING THE PLUNGE OF HIS LIFE AND IF HE BETS ALL HIS PLAYS AT THE RIGHT SHOPS IN THE RIGHT SEQUENCE CAN TURN THE SREEN BLACK MOMENTARILY BEFORE THE SCREEN GOES BACK TO THE ORIGINAL NUMBER.

    AN "ORIGINATORS" OR "WISEGUYS" NUMBERS NEVER GO BACK OR PAST THE ORIGINAL NUMBER OF THE ORDER UNLESS THE ORIGINAL ORDER WAS A PHONY TO SET UP THE "RIGHT" SIDE OR SHAKE THE FOLLLOWERS WHEN THE GAMES ARE RUNNING HOT AND THE "ORIGINATORS" ARE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING DOWN AND FILLING THEIR ORDERS...

    AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED AND MOST OTHER PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS THIS IS THE ONLY DEFINITION OF A "WISEGUY" WHEN REFERED TO IN A CONVERSATION REGARDING THE BUSINESS.

    OTHER DEFINITIONS:

    SHARP-SOMEONE WHO PLAYS AT GOOD NUMBERS AND GETS THE BEST OF IT ON A MAJORITY OF HIS FUTURE PLAYS.

    WINNER-SOMEONE WHOSE PLAYS WIN MORE THAN THEY LOSE ON A REGULAR BASIS AND WHOSE PLAY IS ACCORDED SOME RESPECT DUE TO THIS FACT.

    IN REGARDS TO "WISEGUYS" AND CHURNING BONUSES.

    IF THE SHOP CLEARLY STATES THEY DONNOT WANT WISEGUY ACTION AND IT HAS A 2X RULE AND YOU HAVE TURNED THE MONEY TWICE AND ALL YOUR PLAYS TURN THE SCREEN BLACK,YOU ARE A WISEGUY,NO BONUS!

    IF YOU PLAY EVERYGAME IN THE MORNING,AND THEY ALL MOVE YOUR WAY,AND THEY ALL WIN YOU ARE A WINNER,AND ARE EMINENTLY ENTITTLED TO THE BONUS.

    A LITTLE ADVICE FOR SHOPS THAT DON'T WANT WISEGUY ACTION,IT IS A GOOD POLICY TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE PLAYER AT THE TIME YOU SIGN HIM UP.

    WHEN SOMEONE IS POSTING IN EXCESS OF 10 DIMES THAT SHOULD SEND UP A FLAG.

    HAVE YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE REP CLEARLY ASK ARE YOU MOVING GAMES FOR A CREW,IF THEY SAY YES,DON'T SIGN THEM UP.

    IF THEY SAY NO FEEL FREE TO READ THEM REALITY'S DEFINITION OF A WISEGUY JUST SO YOU ARE BOTH ON THE SAME PAGE...

    FOR THOSE PLAYERS WHO WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SHOPS THAT DON'T WANT WISEGUY ACTION HERE IS A LITTLE FOOD FOR THOUGHT:

    THERE A LESS THAN A DOZEN ORIGINATORS.

    TACK ON A CREW OF 50 FOR EACH ONE MOVING THE GAMES FOR THEM.

    TIMES THAT NUMBER BY 2 FOR SAFETY'S SAKE.

    THAT'S 1,200 NOT WELCOME GUESTS.

    THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PLAYERS.

    WHAT % OF UNWELCOME PLAYERS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE?

    AND REMEMBER IF THEY ARE NOT IN A PLACE KNOCKING THE NUMBER OUT OF WHACK THAT MEANS YOU CAN PLAY AT A BETTER PRICE.

    SO IF A PLACE IS 100% ROCK SOLID AND REFUSES WISEGUY WORK AND YOU NEVER HEAR NO PAY OR SLOW PAY ASSOCIATED WITH THEM YOUR NOT GOING TO PLAY THERE BECAUSE THE "WANNABE WISEGUYS" KEEP BASHING THEM BECAUSE THEY WON'T LET THEM PLAY THERE.

    YOU WOULD RATHER PLAY WHERE THEY LET THE WISEGUYS PLAY,WHERE YOU WILL NEVER BEAT THEM TO THE NUMBER AND WHERE IF THE HOUSE GETS ROUGHED UP ENOUGH IE.DUNES,CARIBI,ETC.YOU MAY NOT GET PAID!

    WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?

    YOU JUST KEEP READING SOME OF THE REDICULOUS POSTS HERE BY THE INDIVIDUALS TRYING TO EARN A LIVING BY MOVING SOMEONE ELSES GAMES.

    OH AND BY THE WAY,WHEN YOUR PLAYING IN THE HOUSES WHERE THE "WANNABE WISEGUYS" YOU SO WANT TO IDENTIFY WITH ARE PLAYING, AND ARE AND HAVING TROUBLE GETTING PAID ,CALL THEM FOR HELP DON'T COME TO FORUMS LIKE THIS WHERE THERE ARE SOME QUALITY BOOKS CONSTANTLY BEING BASHED BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT WISEGUY ACTION.

    KEEP REPEATING THIS OVER AND OVER:

    "IF I ALWAYS WANT UNINTERRUPTED PAYMENT SATISFACTION, MY MONEY'S ALWAYS SAFER IN A SHOP WHERE THERE'S NO WISEGUY ACTION..."

    REPEAT IT OVER AND OVER,AND SIN NO MORE!

    THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO REALITY.

    GO IN PEACE...

    REALITY



  • #2
    Reality, you make it sound so simple - cut and dried. The dreaded few wiseguys. I just don't think it's that simple, and I really fear sportsbook operators that may not have enough insight to tell one from the other.

    Let's take another case - the sharp bettor who, after some time and success, gains a following. He's out there playing his own plays at good numbers. Ten minutes later the screen goes black. He's not a betting syndicate, just a respected player. Sure, even the big groups can jump on these plays and follow. Should you ban this guy? On that side of the counter you can't tell one from the other, since the result is the same.

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    • #3
      SPORTSHOBBY,

      IT IS THAT CUT AND DRIED FOR A PROFESSIONAL.

      ONLY THE TOP ORIGINATORS CAN WIPE OUT THE SCREEN IN 30-60 SECONDS.

      OCCASIONALLY THERE MIGHT BE A PLAYER TAKING A PLUNGE WHO CAN MOVE THE SCREEN BUT IT GENERALLY GOES RIGHT BACK.

      ALSO A BIG SERVICE RELEASES THEIR LOCK AND THAT MIGHT MOVE THE SCREEN.

      IF A PLAYER PLAYS YOU A DOZEN GAMES AND THE SCREEN TURNS BLACK,IS IT COINCIDENCE OR IS HE A WISEGUY ACCORDING TO MY DEFINITION?

      REALITY

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      • #4
        Here's another point to ponder: If you have a shop that moves on action, by preventing the "wiseguy" from playing, what do you accomplish? All you do is give the same play to another guy instead (a middler or follower). I really don't see why it's worth all the effort. The end result is the same in terms of bottom line to the book.

        Don't the shops like CRIS, Sports-Market, etc (that take all players) make a profit? What's wrong with that approach?

        Now if you tell me that you are going to further weed out your players to just the suckers, at least I could understand that from a business standpoint.

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        • #5
          To answer your question, yes, the player would be a "wiseguy" according to your definition. But he could simply be a good player with a big following. Especially if the moves are generally winning (recently), then the screen-watching followers will finish off the play in short order.

          [This message has been edited by sportshobby (edited 02-12-2001).]

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          • #6
            Mr REALITY,

            GRANDE would seem to defeat your logic, no?......CRIS?? AcesGold? Jazz??

            What is it about these guys, that allows them to take on all comers?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sportshobby:
              Here's another point to ponder: If you have a shop that moves on action, by preventing the "wiseguy" from playing, what do you accomplish? All you do is give the same play to another guy instead (a middler or follower). I really don't see why it's worth all the effort. The end result is the same in terms of bottom line to the book.

              VERY BIG DIFFERENCE.

              WISEGUYS JUST PLAY THEIR GAMES AT THE PRICE OF THE ORDER.

              THEY CAN'T GET THE PRICE THEY DON'T PLAY.

              AN EVERYDAY PLAYER CAN PLAY ALL THE STEAM GAMES WITH ME BECAUSE I KNOW I WILL GET HIS OTHER PLAY ALSO.

              THE EVERYDAY PLAYER WILL PUT HIS BALANCE INTO PLAY 10 TIMES BEFORE THE WISEGUY WILL DO IT TWICE...

              Don't the shops like CRIS, Sports-Market, etc (that take all players) make a profit? What's wrong with that approach?

              THAT IS THEIR CHOICE AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES THEM THE CLEARING HOUSES THEY ARE.

              THEIR RISK IS HIGHER AND THERE RETURN IS LOWER,IN THEIR BUSINESS THEY MUST WRITE AS MUCH BUSINESS AS POSSIBLE IN THE HOPE THAT VOLUME CAN OVERCOME THE EXPOSURE FROM THE WISEGUYS AND THE VOLATILITY IN THE LINE THAT "STEAM" PLAYS CREATE.

              IT IS MERELY A BUSINESS DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY YOU WANT TO GO.

              Now if you tell me that you are going to further weed out your players to just the suckers, at least I could understand that from a business standpoint.
              ABSOLUTELY NOT.

              ONLY THE WISEGUYS AS DEFINED HERE ARE NOT WELCOME.

              EVERY ONE ELSE,COME ONE,COME ALL.

              THE MANY POSTS BY POSTERS IN THESE FORUMS BY INDIVIDUALS TRYING TO EARN A LIVING BY MOVING OTHER PEOPLES GAMES IS A JOKE.

              THEY ARE NOT THE "WISEGUYS" THEY WANT TO PORTRAY THEMSELVES AS BEING.

              SO THE SHOPS IDENTIFY THEM AS MOVERS AND CLOSE THEIR ACCOUNTS,SO THEY COME IN HERE WHINING BECAUSE THE BOOK WILL NOT LET THEM EARN.

              NOVICES READ THE POSTS AND TAKE THEM AS GOSPEL AND MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY IN GREAT SHOPS WHERE YOU WILL NEVER HEAR NO PAY OR SLOW PAY.

              DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

              REALITY



              [This message has been edited by REALITY (edited 02-12-2001).]

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jeff:
                Mr REALITY,

                GRANDE would seem to defeat your logic, no?......CRIS?? AcesGold? Jazz??

                What is it about these guys, that allows them to take on all comers?
                MR.JEFF,

                ALLOW ME TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION WITH ONE OF REALITY'S FAVORITE POSTS:


                scott
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                Registered: Nov 2000
                posted 11-17-2000 02:28 PM
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                Bookmaking is like making a salad. Take all the green(money),throw it in a bowl and mix it up. It doesn't matter whose name is on what bill. Pay the winners with the losers $$ and if any is left over keep it. It's really quite simple. Just let the players alone, encourage them, don't hassle them and eventually most of the bowl will be yours. Eleven is bigger than ten...Scotty
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                REALITY
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                Posts: 466
                Registered: Jul 2000
                posted 11-17-2000 03:17 PM
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                WISEGUY CLEARING HOUSES LIKE C.R.I.S.,OLYMPIC,AND GRANDE ARE THRILLED TO WIN BETWEEN 1 AND 2% OF THEIR HANDLE.
                BIG POST UP STORES LIKE TO WIN BETWEEN 3 AND 5% OF THE HANDLE.

                11/10 IS A LOT BIGGER IN THE POST UP SHOPS, WHERE THE EXPOSURE IN THE LINE DOES NOT EAT UP THE BOTTOM LINE AS IT DOES IN THE BIG CLEARING HOUSES WHO BY VIRTUE OF POSTING THEIR LINES FIRST WRITE MORE VOLUME BUT ALSO HAVE MORE EXPOSURE.

                IN THE END THE BIG CLEARING HOUSES HAVE A HOUSE SALAD.

                THE BIG POST UP HOUSES HAVE A CAESAR'S SALAD WITH A GRILLED CHICKEN BREAST ON TOP.

                REALITY




                [This message has been edited by REALITY (edited 02-12-2001).]

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                • #9
                  [QUOTE]Originally posted by sportshobby:
                  [B]To answer your question, yes, the player would be a "wiseguy" according to your definition. But he could simply be a good player with a big following. Especially if the moves are generally winning (recently), then the screen-watching followers will finish off the play in short order.

                  IF THAT'S TRUE HE'S GOING TO MAKE HIS PLAY AND AS THE WORD GETS AROUND ABOUT IT, THE MONEY WILL TRICKLE IN AS OPPOSED TO A SYNDICATE WORKING IN CONCERT TO MOVE A GAME AND WIPE OUT THE MARKET PLACE AS ONLY THEY CAN...

                  REALITY

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                  • #10
                    I don't get it. See, you're assuming again that only the big syndicates can black out the screen. I'm telling you that it's not true. Plays can begin to win, and followers emerge from every corner of the universe. As long as the moves are winning recently, everyone from the big groups to the little followers can jump on as they unfold.

                    Maybe sometimes the little guy has uncovered plays that the big groups wanted to play later anyway. Maybe sometimes they just jump onboard to follow. The result is the same, and the bookmakers don't know the difference.


                    [This message has been edited by sportshobby (edited 02-13-2001).]

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                    • #11
                      Reality, from what I have heard, it takes a lot more than a salad and a slab of grilled chicken to fill you up.

                      Actually, I think you've been dining on Filet Min-squares way too long.

                      Could you handle a house salad joint?

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                      • #12
                        Unless you're throwing out everyone but suckers, all you're doing is denying the originators the play and giving it to a following/middler. You are not changing the bottom line of your book any. In fact, you may be COSTING your book money by NOT knowing from whence the play comes. When the follower/middler plays, you don't have nearly as much information as if the originator was making the same play.

                        Forgive me if I'm wrong, for I'm not a bookmaker. But it seems to me that you are advocating a lot of work to prevent someone from making a play, when that same play is given to someone else freely. This seems to be wasted effort and reduced profits for the owners.

                        [This message has been edited by sportshobby (edited 02-13-2001).]

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                        • #13
                          Re: DEFINITION OF A WISEGUY...

                          Originally posted by REALITY
                          DEFINITION OF A WISEGUY AS PERTAINING TO THE DISCLAIMER,"WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE THE WAGERS OF ALL PROFESSIONAL SYNDICATE BETTING GROUPS"

                          A PLAYER THAT PLAYS ALL HIS PLAYS ON MONDAY AND THEY ALL MOVE TWO POINTS HIS WAY AND HE WINS EVERY SINGLE GAME IS A "WINNER" AND NOT A WISEGUY AND WOULD NEVER BE THROWN OUT WHERE I'M SITTING BECAUSE I HAD THE WHOLE WEEK TO WORK THE GAME.

                          SAME THING GOES FOR A PLAYER WHO PLAYS IN THE MORNING AND ALL HIS PLAYS MOVE TWO POINTS AND HE WINS ALL HIS PLAYS IS A "WINNER" AND WOULD NEVER BE THROWN OUT WHERE I'M SITTING BECAUSE I HAD ALL AFTERNOON TO WORK THE GAME.

                          FOR THE LAST TIME THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF A WISEGUY AS IT PERTAINS TO THE DISCLAIMER,"WISEGUYS NOT WELCOME"

                          FROM THE LEXICON OF REALITY:

                          WISEGUY-AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS THE ORIGINATOR OF A PLAY OR SOMEONE WHO IS WORKING IN CONCERT WITH THE ORIGINATOR TO MOVE THE ORIGINATORS PLAYS INTO AS MANY OFFICES AS POSSIBLE IN THE SHORTEST PERIOD OF TIME AT THE EXACT PRICE THE ORDER IS PUT OUT AT THUS EFFECTIVELY WIPING OUT THE NUMBER IN THE MARKETPLACE WITHIN 30 TO 60 SECONDS AND CREATING THE GAMBLING PHENOMENON KNOWN AS "STEAM".

                          HE DOES THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THATS ALL HE DOES.

                          IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER HE IS LOOKING FOR HE PASSES AND DOES NOT PLAY.

                          NEVER TO BE CONFUSED WITH SOMEONE WHO IS MAKING THE PLUNGE OF HIS LIFE AND IF HE BETS ALL HIS PLAYS AT THE RIGHT SHOPS IN THE RIGHT SEQUENCE CAN TURN THE SREEN BLACK MOMENTARILY BEFORE THE SCREEN GOES BACK TO THE ORIGINAL NUMBER.

                          AN "ORIGINATORS" OR "WISEGUYS" NUMBERS NEVER GO BACK OR PAST THE ORIGINAL NUMBER OF THE ORDER UNLESS THE ORIGINAL ORDER WAS A PHONY TO SET UP THE "RIGHT" SIDE OR SHAKE THE FOLLLOWERS WHEN THE GAMES ARE RUNNING HOT AND THE "ORIGINATORS" ARE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING DOWN AND FILLING THEIR ORDERS...

                          AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED AND MOST OTHER PEOPLE IN THE BUSINESS THIS IS THE ONLY DEFINITION OF A "WISEGUY" WHEN REFERED TO IN A CONVERSATION REGARDING THE BUSINESS.

                          OTHER DEFINITIONS:

                          SHARP-SOMEONE WHO PLAYS AT GOOD NUMBERS AND GETS THE BEST OF IT ON A MAJORITY OF HIS FUTURE PLAYS.

                          WINNER-SOMEONE WHOSE PLAYS WIN MORE THAN THEY LOSE ON A REGULAR BASIS AND WHOSE PLAY IS ACCORDED SOME RESPECT DUE TO THIS FACT.

                          IN REGARDS TO "WISEGUYS" AND CHURNING BONUSES.

                          IF THE SHOP CLEARLY STATES THEY DONNOT WANT WISEGUY ACTION AND IT HAS A 2X RULE AND YOU HAVE TURNED THE MONEY TWICE AND ALL YOUR PLAYS TURN THE SCREEN BLACK,YOU ARE A WISEGUY,NO BONUS!

                          IF YOU PLAY EVERYGAME IN THE MORNING,AND THEY ALL MOVE YOUR WAY,AND THEY ALL WIN YOU ARE A WINNER,AND ARE EMINENTLY ENTITTLED TO THE BONUS.

                          A LITTLE ADVICE FOR SHOPS THAT DON'T WANT WISEGUY ACTION,IT IS A GOOD POLICY TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE PLAYER AT THE TIME YOU SIGN HIM UP.

                          WHEN SOMEONE IS POSTING IN EXCESS OF 10 DIMES THAT SHOULD SEND UP A FLAG.

                          HAVE YOUR CUSTOMER SERVICE REP CLEARLY ASK ARE YOU MOVING GAMES FOR A CREW,IF THEY SAY YES,DON'T SIGN THEM UP.

                          IF THEY SAY NO FEEL FREE TO READ THEM REALITY'S DEFINITION OF A WISEGUY JUST SO YOU ARE BOTH ON THE SAME PAGE...

                          FOR THOSE PLAYERS WHO WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SHOPS THAT DON'T WANT WISEGUY ACTION HERE IS A LITTLE FOOD FOR THOUGHT:

                          THERE A LESS THAN A DOZEN ORIGINATORS.

                          TACK ON A CREW OF 50 FOR EACH ONE MOVING THE GAMES FOR THEM.

                          TIMES THAT NUMBER BY 2 FOR SAFETY'S SAKE.

                          THAT'S 1,200 NOT WELCOME GUESTS.

                          THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PLAYERS.

                          WHAT % OF UNWELCOME PLAYERS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE?

                          AND REMEMBER IF THEY ARE NOT IN A PLACE KNOCKING THE NUMBER OUT OF WHACK THAT MEANS YOU CAN PLAY AT A BETTER PRICE.

                          SO IF A PLACE IS 100% ROCK SOLID AND REFUSES WISEGUY WORK AND YOU NEVER HEAR NO PAY OR SLOW PAY ASSOCIATED WITH THEM YOUR NOT GOING TO PLAY THERE BECAUSE THE "WANNABE WISEGUYS" KEEP BASHING THEM BECAUSE THEY WON'T LET THEM PLAY THERE.

                          YOU WOULD RATHER PLAY WHERE THEY LET THE WISEGUYS PLAY,WHERE YOU WILL NEVER BEAT THEM TO THE NUMBER AND WHERE IF THE HOUSE GETS ROUGHED UP ENOUGH IE.DUNES,CARIBI,ETC.YOU MAY NOT GET PAID!

                          WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?

                          YOU JUST KEEP READING SOME OF THE REDICULOUS POSTS HERE BY THE INDIVIDUALS TRYING TO EARN A LIVING BY MOVING SOMEONE ELSES GAMES.

                          OH AND BY THE WAY,WHEN YOUR PLAYING IN THE HOUSES WHERE THE "WANNABE WISEGUYS" YOU SO WANT TO IDENTIFY WITH ARE PLAYING, AND ARE AND HAVING TROUBLE GETTING PAID ,CALL THEM FOR HELP DON'T COME TO FORUMS LIKE THIS WHERE THERE ARE SOME QUALITY BOOKS CONSTANTLY BEING BASHED BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT WISEGUY ACTION.

                          KEEP REPEATING THIS OVER AND OVER:

                          "IF I ALWAYS WANT UNINTERRUPTED PAYMENT SATISFACTION, MY MONEY'S ALWAYS SAFER IN A SHOP WHERE THERE'S NO WISEGUY ACTION..."

                          REPEAT IT OVER AND OVER,AND SIN NO MORE!

                          THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO REALITY.

                          GO IN PEACE...

                          REALITY


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                          • #14
                            What does MAKE A SCREEN GO BLACK MEAN?

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                            • #15
                              This means one is watching an odds screen like the DonBest feed and the line at many sportsbooks changes almost simultaneously.

                              I still think the logic is not good, because it is not always the originator's fault that the screen goes black. It can be others that were waiting to play the game, it can be followers, etc, etc.

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