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  • A ROCK, A HARD PLACE,AND SOME REALITY...

    I HAVE TWO FRIENDS.

    JEFF OF BW.

    FREDDY OF MW.

    I KNOW THEM BOTH THROUGH THE FORUMS.

    WE HAVE SOCIALIZED TOGETHER.

    I DIDN'T GROW UP WITH THEM SO I CANT SAY I KNOW THEM INSIDE AND OUT.

    WE DIDN'T GROW UP NEXT DOOR TO ONE ANOTHER SO I CANT DISPUTE OR AFFIRM SOME OF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HURLED BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THEMSELVES IN THEIR RESPECTIVE FORUMS BY CERTAIN POSTERS AND MORE CERTAINLY BY FIRST TIME "GHOSTERS" WITH AN OBVIOUS AGENDA.

    JEFF BECAUSE OF HIS QUIETER PERSONALITY IS LIKE AN OLD JACKET YOU'VE COME TO LOVE OVER THE YEARS.

    THE COMFORT IT PROVIDES MAKES IT EASIER TO LIKE AND TURN TO WHEN THE WEATHER GETS BAD.

    JEFF IS EASY TO LIKE AND HIS QUIET DEMEANOR MAKES IT EASY TO TRUST HIS HONOR AND INTEGRITY.

    FREDDY ON THE OTHER HAND HAS THE RIGHT HANDLE "THE DEVIL".

    HE'S LOUD,OUTGOING,AND COULD CHARM THE SHIRT OFF YOUR BACK.

    FREDDY IS THE SECOND COMING OF "THE MUSIC MAN".

    FREDDY COULD MAKE COFFEE NERVOUS.

    THIS IS NOT TO INSINUATE IN ANY WAY,SHAPE,OR FORM HE IS ANY LESS HONORABLE OR HAS ANY LESS INTEGRITY THAN JEFF.

    QUITE THE CONTRARY.

    JEFF WAS THE FIRST PERSON I EVER MET FROM THE FORUMS.

    FREDDY WAS THE SECOND.

    THE INVESTIGATION I DID ON FREDDY AND FREDDY DID ON ME BEFORE WE AGREED TO MEET RIVALED ANY C.I.A.INVESTIGATION.

    JUST FROM THE FEEDBACK I ORIGINALLY GOT I KNEW HE WAS A STAND UP GUY.

    WHEN YOU MEET FREDDY HIS OUTGOING PERSONALITY KNOCKS YOU OFF GUARD,ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS AN AUDIENCE.

    YOU FEEL YOU NEED 12 PAIRS OF EYES BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW WHERE HE IS COMING FROM.

    DESPITE HIS COLLEGE OF HARD KNOCKS STREET EDUCATION YOU CAN EASILY TELL THIS IS AN EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT INDIVIDUAL AND THE FACT THAT HE CAN COMMAND THE ATTENTION OF THE ROOM WITH THAT GIFT FURTHER MAKES HIM HARD TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

    IN MORE QUIET ONE ON ONE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT REALLY MATTERS AS A MAN AND IN LIFE YOU GET A SENSE OF HIS TRUE SINCERITY AND INTEGRITY.

    I CAN RELATE TO THAT BECAUSE I AM NOTHING LIKE THE POSTER KNOWN AS REALITY.

    NOTHING.

    TO ANYBODY WHO SAYS FREDDY OWES MONEY I SAY IF HE OWES YOU COME IN HERE AND PROVE IT.

    IF A MAN OWES MONEY DOES THAT MEAN HE HAS NO INTEGRITY OR HONOR?

    IT DEPENDS ON WHY HE OWES THE MONEY NOT THE FACT THAT HE OWES THE MONEY.

    A SUBJECT THAT I WILL NOT ELABORATE ON HERE.

    I OWED MY LIFE.

    ALL TO FRIENDS WHO I HELPED FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OR MORE.

    YOU DONT GET THAT KIND OF HELP UNLESS YOU ARE A SPECIAL KIND OF PERSON.

    TO THEM I WAS NEVER LESS HONORABLE OR HAVE LESS INTEGRITY DESPITE THE FACT THAT I OWED THEM.

    IF ANYTHING I GAINED MORE OF THEIR RESPECT BECAUSE EVERY HOLIDAY I STOPPED AND SAW EACH AND EVERY PERSON I OWED WITH SOME KIND OF TOKEN GIFT WHICH BOTH PARTIES KNEW MEANT,"I'M SORRY I STILL OWE YOU AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN YOU".

    I BORROWED TO PAY PLAYERS AND BOOKMAKERS ALIKE.

    I HAVE AN UNBLEMISHED RECORD IN THAT ARENA.

    MY HONOR AND INTEGRITY WAS INTACT THEN AND WHEN GOD GAVE ME ANOTHER MIRACLE AND I PAID OFF ALL THE FRIENDS I OWED, I BECAME AN ICON.

    IT TRULY IS EMBARRASING THE WAY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT ME AND WHAT I WAS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.

    WHEN MY FRIENDS PASSED THE HAT AROUND AND BROUGHT 5 DIMES TO MY HOUSE ONE CHRISTMAS EVE I KNEW I HIT ROCK BOTTOM.

    THE DAY AFTER NEW YEARS BEGAN THE REALITY MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR.

    THREE TIMES I OWED MY LIFE AND BET MY WAY OUT.

    THIS TIME THE GOOD LORD SAID'"I'LL LEND YOU A HAND MY SON,BUT YOU HAVE TO WORK YOUR WAY OUT".

    EVERY NIGHT ON THE SIDE OF MY BED I THANK GOD FOR THE MIRACLE THAT HE GRANTED ME.

    OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T THAT LUCKY.

    I CAN ONLY TELL YOU WHAT I HEAR ON THE STREET ABOUT FREDDY.

    HE IS A WELL LIKED,WELL RESPECTED INDIVIDUAL AND ANY OBLIGATIONS HE MAY HAVE ARE TO THE SAME KIND OF FRIENDS I HAD WHO HELPED ME.

    I HAVE NEVER HEARD FREDDY DESCRIBED IN ANYTHING BUT FLATTERING TERMS.

    IN REALITY WHAT WE HAVE HERE ARE TWO LIKABLE HONORABLE GUYS WHO HAVE LET THINGS GET WAY OUT OF HAND.

    FROM MY PERSPECTIVE NEITHER ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO BLINK OR GIVE IN AND THAT'S A SHAME.

    WHY?

    THEIR PERSONALITIES WONT ALLOW IT.

    I CAN RELATE TO THAT.

    WHEN THE ACTUARY THOUGHT HE COULD BRING ME TO MY KNEES BY ATTEMPTING TO CYBER-BLACKMAIL ME BY LISTING THE PLACES WHERE HE THOUGHT I WORKED ALL RATIONALE WENT OUT THE WINDOW.

    NOBODY NEEDS TO BE REMINDED OF MY RESPONSE.

    WHEN YOU BACK SOME GUYS IN THE CORNER INTELLECT,REASON,AND RESTRAINT GO OUT THE WINDOW.

    JEFF,FREDDIE,AND REALITY ARE CLASSIC EXAMPLES.

    THIS TRIO WILL NEVER KISS AND MAKE UP WHEN THERE IS AN AUDIENCE AROUND AFTER THEY HAVE LET IT ALL HANG OUT FOR ALL TO SEE.

    THE TWO FORUMS PROVIDED THE AUDIENCE IN SPADES.

    REALITY HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DISPLAY HIS TRUE PERSONALITY IN PRIVATE E-MAILS.

    PERHAPS FLETCHER OR DOGGIE WILL ATTEST TO THIS FACT.

    HAD EITHER JEFF OR FREDDY REACHED OUT TO ONE ANOTHER AND MADE A SERIOUS "GENTLEMAN'S AGREEMENT" TO BAN WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED THIS FIASCO WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN SO OUT OF HAND.

    IT CAN NEVER BE PLAYED OUT TO EACH OFFENDED PARTIES SATISFACTION IN THE FORUMS.

    WHEN RENO AND REALITY LIGHT UP THE FORUMS THEY ARE MERELY POSTERS.

    WHEN THE FORUM OWNERS GO TOE TO TOE IT'S TIME TO PAUSE FOR SOME REFLECTION.

    ONE OF THE TWO OFFENDED PARTIES IS GOING TO HAVE TO SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

    IF NOT BECAUSE THEY MEAN THEN CERTAINLY BECAUSE IT IS BAD FOR BUSINESS...

    REALITY

    [ 06-06-2001: Message edited by: REALITY ]

  • #2
    first of all i am new to this site,and will show the respect to it like i do any site that i choose to take part in.
    reality is a whole different person when you talk to him one on one,and he will go out of his way to help someone as long as you are truthful with him.although we have not met yet,i know i have a friend in him and if i needed help he would be there for me to help me out within reason.i have no question about that.
    as far as what i have read the last couple of days shocks me as a person,i come to these fourms to get info on things that help me out,i am always learnig all the time about somethings,in turn i try to help others out with the games i play here in vegas in hopes that they can add some extra cash to there pockets,i ask nothing in return nor would i ever. just like to see others help out in the same way. thats what we all should be here for.
    to me there is much more going on in this world to worry about then some of the things i have read at both fourms. i donot take sides on somethings like this because i feel both sites and posters are out of line.i might be new to here but i am not new to handicapping, somethings are just better left untouched,in this business wrongs will get righted in there own way. i also donot think that some of the posters that spoke out of anger or got caught up in the heat of this,are bad people deep down,and for those that are places like this and other sites donot need you around.
    i really hope each one of you look within yourself and ask is this worth it,and am i a better person by acting out of anger. hell i am good at putting my foot in my mouth a few times a week. i get fired up and sometimes let mouth run before brain can catch up,then i feel bad after the fact. if there are wrongs that have happened they will take care of themself at some point in life, might not be today but it will happen.
    this is making all sites look stupid and makes people like myself that does handicapp for a living look like a under ground type person that people look down at,it makes both sides of the business look bad and we don't need that. we are already judged by people that don't understand gamining,so we don't need to add gas to their fire.
    hope you all have a good day and remember life is short it really is,myself or you or one of our friends could be gone at anytime. so lets just enjoy life,its ok to get upset at times but don't let it run your life.
    good luck to everyone in what ever you do in life and hopes that you enjoy it.
    ps no crack backs on my piss poor speeling and sentence structure,i already know it sucks,here is the real kicker i have a ms, and suck when it comes to writting and spelling.
    thanks to all of you for helping out with gaming info and off the wall subjects that bring a laugh to our faces during the not so great time.
    fletcher

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    • #3
      i never like your posts before but you know what i still don't

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      • #4
        Wow Baseball bill, a sign-up from May 2000, doesn't like someone. BFD. Check my sign-up date. I've been following this forum since the days before the merger of oddswiz and bookies hell. The Devil was a big contributer to this forum until opening his own site and Jeff is a stand-up guy. Work it out guys!

        I have always liked Jeff and I know Freddy and Reality and they are all classy guys. I'm sure this will calm down and cooler heads will prevail

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        • #5
          i registered in may of 2001 not 2000 just because i registered last month does not mean i haven't been reading these boards for two years just never had anything to say so intheknow i realy guess you didn't know

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          • #6
            baseball bill,

            Tell us a little about yourself. #1 How did you get your moniker. #2 Did you learn anything from reading and lurking Bettorsworld for 2 years. #3 Where did you learn to handicap? #4 Have you always been a Tony Robbins clone?

            SINCE THIS IS A GAMING SITE LET ME TAKE A GUESS--OK

            #1 You play baseball put you never pay the bill.

            #2 Learned knowledge? If so , you're keeping it to yourself.

            #3 K-Mart or Sam's Club.

            #4 Oh, sorry , you don't know who he is.

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            • #7
              1)i was at mets game in july of 86 the cheap seats above mets bullpen i yelled to dave cone "nice game yesterday" because the day before he got bombed and then he threw a baseball at me thus from then on my pals call me baseball bill
              2)some posters on these boards provide great insight - while others boast & gloat and talk about themselves
              3)when i was in grade school i used to handicap which kids would do their homework or not, pass a test or fail, and would they get between 70 to 80 80 to 90 or 90 to 100, this made my lunch money
              4)thank you so much for the tony robbins remark but only baseball bill can motivate baseball bill. :eek:

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              • #8
                Every now and then this off-topic sparring gets a chuckle out of me - this one sure did. Thanks, BaseballBill!

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                • #9
                  baseballbill,

                  Thanks for the resume. You kinda surpised me. I expected a Henny Youngman response. Atleast sportshobby appreciates your candid response. However, I don't buy into your credibility. DAVID CONE DID NOT PITCH FOR THE METS IN 1986.

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                  • #10
                    i'm sorry ronnie about the year it was late 80's maybe 87 or 88 to be honest i'm not sure the 80's it was all a big haze to me to much of everything (booze/ladies etc.) you know ronnie i found out in 1994 that i married a girl in 1988 so ronnie if you believe me you beleive me if you don't you don't as long as baseball bill believes in baseball bill then baseball bill is ok :eek:

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                    • #11
                      baseballbill,

                      Women are a viable excuse. I've had my share of problems with them. Someone said gambling and women don't mix. Yeah, they were right!!

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                      • #12
                        Re: A ROCK, A HARD PLACE,AND SOME REALITY...

                        Originally posted by REALITY
                        I HAVE TWO FRIENDS.

                        JEFF OF BW.

                        FREDDY OF MW.

                        I KNOW THEM BOTH THROUGH THE FORUMS.

                        WE HAVE SOCIALIZED TOGETHER.

                        I DIDN'T GROW UP WITH THEM SO I CANT SAY I KNOW THEM INSIDE AND OUT.

                        WE DIDN'T GROW UP NEXT DOOR TO ONE ANOTHER SO I CANT DISPUTE OR AFFIRM SOME OF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN HURLED BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THEMSELVES IN THEIR RESPECTIVE FORUMS BY CERTAIN POSTERS AND MORE CERTAINLY BY FIRST TIME "GHOSTERS" WITH AN OBVIOUS AGENDA.

                        JEFF BECAUSE OF HIS QUIETER PERSONALITY IS LIKE AN OLD JACKET YOU'VE COME TO LOVE OVER THE YEARS.

                        THE COMFORT IT PROVIDES MAKES IT EASIER TO LIKE AND TURN TO WHEN THE WEATHER GETS BAD.

                        JEFF IS EASY TO LIKE AND HIS QUIET DEMEANOR MAKES IT EASY TO TRUST HIS HONOR AND INTEGRITY.

                        FREDDY ON THE OTHER HAND HAS THE RIGHT HANDLE "THE DEVIL".

                        HE'S LOUD,OUTGOING,AND COULD CHARM THE SHIRT OFF YOUR BACK.

                        FREDDY IS THE SECOND COMING OF "THE MUSIC MAN".

                        FREDDY COULD MAKE COFFEE NERVOUS.

                        THIS IS NOT TO INSINUATE IN ANY WAY,SHAPE,OR FORM HE IS ANY LESS HONORABLE OR HAS ANY LESS INTEGRITY THAN JEFF.

                        QUITE THE CONTRARY.

                        JEFF WAS THE FIRST PERSON I EVER MET FROM THE FORUMS.

                        FREDDY WAS THE SECOND.

                        THE INVESTIGATION I DID ON FREDDY AND FREDDY DID ON ME BEFORE WE AGREED TO MEET RIVALED ANY C.I.A.INVESTIGATION.

                        JUST FROM THE FEEDBACK I ORIGINALLY GOT I KNEW HE WAS A STAND UP GUY.

                        WHEN YOU MEET FREDDY HIS OUTGOING PERSONALITY KNOCKS YOU OFF GUARD,ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS AN AUDIENCE.

                        YOU FEEL YOU NEED 12 PAIRS OF EYES BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW WHERE HE IS COMING FROM.

                        DESPITE HIS COLLEGE OF HARD KNOCKS STREET EDUCATION YOU CAN EASILY TELL THIS IS AN EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT INDIVIDUAL AND THE FACT THAT HE CAN COMMAND THE ATTENTION OF THE ROOM WITH THAT GIFT FURTHER MAKES HIM HARD TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

                        IN MORE QUIET ONE ON ONE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT REALLY MATTERS AS A MAN AND IN LIFE YOU GET A SENSE OF HIS TRUE SINCERITY AND INTEGRITY.

                        I CAN RELATE TO THAT BECAUSE I AM NOTHING LIKE THE POSTER KNOWN AS REALITY.

                        NOTHING.

                        TO ANYBODY WHO SAYS FREDDY OWES MONEY I SAY IF HE OWES YOU COME IN HERE AND PROVE IT.

                        IF A MAN OWES MONEY DOES THAT MEAN HE HAS NO INTEGRITY OR HONOR?

                        IT DEPENDS ON WHY HE OWES THE MONEY NOT THE FACT THAT HE OWES THE MONEY.

                        A SUBJECT THAT I WILL NOT ELABORATE ON HERE.

                        I OWED MY LIFE.

                        ALL TO FRIENDS WHO I HELPED FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OR MORE.

                        YOU DONT GET THAT KIND OF HELP UNLESS YOU ARE A SPECIAL KIND OF PERSON.

                        TO THEM I WAS NEVER LESS HONORABLE OR HAVE LESS INTEGRITY DESPITE THE FACT THAT I OWED THEM.

                        IF ANYTHING I GAINED MORE OF THEIR RESPECT BECAUSE EVERY HOLIDAY I STOPPED AND SAW EACH AND EVERY PERSON I OWED WITH SOME KIND OF TOKEN GIFT WHICH BOTH PARTIES KNEW MEANT,"I'M SORRY I STILL OWE YOU AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN YOU".

                        I BORROWED TO PAY PLAYERS AND BOOKMAKERS ALIKE.

                        I HAVE AN UNBLEMISHED RECORD IN THAT ARENA.

                        MY HONOR AND INTEGRITY WAS INTACT THEN AND WHEN GOD GAVE ME ANOTHER MIRACLE AND I PAID OFF ALL THE FRIENDS I OWED, I BECAME AN ICON.

                        IT TRULY IS EMBARRASING THE WAY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT ME AND WHAT I WAS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.

                        WHEN MY FRIENDS PASSED THE HAT AROUND AND BROUGHT 5 DIMES TO MY HOUSE ONE CHRISTMAS EVE I KNEW I HIT ROCK BOTTOM.

                        THE DAY AFTER NEW YEARS BEGAN THE REALITY MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR.

                        THREE TIMES I OWED MY LIFE AND BET MY WAY OUT.

                        THIS TIME THE GOOD LORD SAID'"I'LL LEND YOU A HAND MY SON,BUT YOU HAVE TO WORK YOUR WAY OUT".

                        EVERY NIGHT ON THE SIDE OF MY BED I THANK GOD FOR THE MIRACLE THAT HE GRANTED ME.

                        OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T THAT LUCKY.

                        I CAN ONLY TELL YOU WHAT I HEAR ON THE STREET ABOUT FREDDY.

                        HE IS A WELL LIKED,WELL RESPECTED INDIVIDUAL AND ANY OBLIGATIONS HE MAY HAVE ARE TO THE SAME KIND OF FRIENDS I HAD WHO HELPED ME.

                        I HAVE NEVER HEARD FREDDY DESCRIBED IN ANYTHING BUT FLATTERING TERMS.

                        IN REALITY WHAT WE HAVE HERE ARE TWO LIKABLE HONORABLE GUYS WHO HAVE LET THINGS GET WAY OUT OF HAND.

                        FROM MY PERSPECTIVE NEITHER ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING TO BLINK OR GIVE IN AND THAT'S A SHAME.

                        WHY?

                        THEIR PERSONALITIES WONT ALLOW IT.

                        I CAN RELATE TO THAT.

                        WHEN THE ACTUARY THOUGHT HE COULD BRING ME TO MY KNEES BY ATTEMPTING TO CYBER-BLACKMAIL ME BY LISTING THE PLACES WHERE HE THOUGHT I WORKED ALL RATIONALE WENT OUT THE WINDOW.

                        NOBODY NEEDS TO BE REMINDED OF MY RESPONSE.

                        WHEN YOU BACK SOME GUYS IN THE CORNER INTELLECT,REASON,AND RESTRAINT GO OUT THE WINDOW.

                        JEFF,FREDDIE,AND REALITY ARE CLASSIC EXAMPLES.

                        THIS TRIO WILL NEVER KISS AND MAKE UP WHEN THERE IS AN AUDIENCE AROUND AFTER THEY HAVE LET IT ALL HANG OUT FOR ALL TO SEE.

                        THE TWO FORUMS PROVIDED THE AUDIENCE IN SPADES.

                        REALITY HAS BEEN KNOWN TO DISPLAY HIS TRUE PERSONALITY IN PRIVATE E-MAILS.

                        PERHAPS FLETCHER OR DOGGIE WILL ATTEST TO THIS FACT.

                        HAD EITHER JEFF OR FREDDY REACHED OUT TO ONE ANOTHER AND MADE A SERIOUS "GENTLEMAN'S AGREEMENT" TO BAN WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED THIS FIASCO WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN SO OUT OF HAND.

                        IT CAN NEVER BE PLAYED OUT TO EACH OFFENDED PARTIES SATISFACTION IN THE FORUMS.

                        WHEN RENO AND REALITY LIGHT UP THE FORUMS THEY ARE MERELY POSTERS.

                        WHEN THE FORUM OWNERS GO TOE TO TOE IT'S TIME TO PAUSE FOR SOME REFLECTION.

                        ONE OF THE TWO OFFENDED PARTIES IS GOING TO HAVE TO SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

                        IF NOT BECAUSE THEY MEAN THEN CERTAINLY BECAUSE IT IS BAD FOR BUSINESS...

                        REALITY

                        [ 06-06-2001: Message edited by: REALITY ]

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