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    [quote]Originally posted by Curious:

    My point was that I think it is a poor business decision that cost them money last year, and will cost them more money and tarnish their reputation longer term.

    C.R.I.S.HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE OFF-SHORE INDUSTRY AND THEY HAVE AN IMPECABLE REPUTATION.

    C.R.I.S. IS A UNIQUE BUSINESS GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY ARE AMONG IF NOT THE LARGEST AMERICAN SPORTS BOOKMAKER IN THE INDUSTRY.

    I'M SURE YOU READ MY POST ABOUT THEIR WISEGUY/SHARP INDEX (W.S.I.).

    THEIRS IS THE HIGHEST W.S.I.IN THE INDUSTRY WITHOUT A DOUBT.

    FOR THAT REASON ALONE THEIR BUSINESS CANT BE FAIRLY COMPARED TO ANYONE ELSES.

    LAST BASEBALL SEASON WAS THE BEST IN THEIR HISTORY.

    THEY DIDN'T COST THEMSELVES A DIME BECAUSE THEY ATTEMPT TO HOLD A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND MOVE THE LINE ACCORDINGLY TO THAT END TO CONTROL WHAT THEY HOLD.

    THE ONLY WAY THEY COULD HAVE WON MORE WAS TO HOLD MORE.

    THEY BOOK WHAT THEY ARE BET.

    THEY DONT BET OUT.

    THEY ARE NOT SHOT TAKERS.

    THEY ARE "STONE COLD" BOOKMAKERS.

    THAT'S NOT TO SAY THEY WONT HOLD A GAME FOR MORE IF THEY FEEL THEY HAVE ALREADY MOVED THE LINE ENOUGH.

    Just as any sportsbook can make any decision they decide is in their best interest (even if they are mistaken), players can play wherever they want and for whatever reasons they choose.

    YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT AND THAT IS WHY C.R.I.S. AND OLYMPIC HAVE THE MONSTER BUSINESSES THEY DO!

    THEY OPEN FIRST.

    THEY TAKE A BIG BET.

    NOW MY POINT ABOUT YOUR FOLLOWING ERRONEOUS STATEMENT:

    Originally posted by Curious:
    [QB]
    My point was that I think it is a poor business decision that cost them money last year, and will cost them more money and tarnish their reputation longer term.

    CURIOUS,

    DESPITE THE FACT THAT YOU REFUSED TO GO ON RECORD THAT YOU WOULD USE C.R.I.S. OR OLYMPIC SPORTS IN FOOTS AND BASKETS IF YOU HYPOTHETICALLY HAD CREDIT THERE,YOUR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

    YOU LIKE EVERY OTHER PLAYER WITH A CLUE MAY NOT PLAY WITH THEM DURING BASEBALL BUT YOU WILL DEFINITELY PLAY THEM IN FOOTS AND BASKETS!

    WHY?

    SIMPLE.

    THE VALUE IN THEIR POSTING THE LINES FIRST.

    THE GOOD LIMITS.

    THE GREAT BUYBACK VALUE IN THESE SHOPS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT AFRAID TO MOVE TO A LINE THAT IS OFF THE BOARD.

    MICKEY OF C.R.I.S.SAID IT BEST:

    Originally posted by Mickey:

    CURIOUS,

    BETCRIS does not discount any sport, period. The reason we don't discount is because it is come one come all, whether you are a wiseguy or a square. We work on a hold that is traditionally low compared to the industry because we accept all the sharp shooters and no one has ever been BOOTED (no pun intended) for winning. In other words, here is our numbers, play and get paid. Most people play into our store because our numbers move dramatically, especially at post. Most shoopers play here because they understand the value of a half point and that is the basic reason why you will never see a discount at CRIS.

    Thanks
    Mickey www.betcris.com
    1-800-596-8946
    IN CONCLUSION THE POINT YOU WERE TRYING TO MAKE IN REGARDS TO THESE TWO BUSINESSES,C.R.I.S. AND OLYMPIC SPORTS JUST DOSEN'T RING TRUE BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUENESS OF THEIR OPERATIONS.

    C.R.I.S.'S AND OLYMPIC SPORTS BUSINESS DECISION TO DEAL 20 CENT BASEBALL WILL NEVER HURT THEIR BUSINESS OR TARNISH THEIR REPUTATION.

    IT WILL NEVER PRECLUDE SOMEBODY FROM LAYING -3 ON A GAME WITH THEM WHEN THE WORLD IS PAINTED -3.5.

    IT IS ALL ABOUT VALUE FOR THE SMART PLAYERS.

    AND NOBODY GIVES THE SMART PLAYER MORE VALUE IN THE LINE, FOR AS BIG A BET,AS EARLY AS C.R.I.S.AND OLYMPIC SPORTS...

    REALITY

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    Reality:

    I think you're wrong, for all the reasons I stated in previous posts. I will spare the readers the avalanche of copy/pastes just to say the same thing over and over and over.

    Best of luck to you, Cris, and Olympic.

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    • #3
      CURIOUS,

      NO DISRESPECT INTENDED.

      I WOULD NEVER ARGUE IN DEFENSE OF A TWENTY CENT LINE.

      THESE TWO BOOKS MADE A BUSINESS DECISION AND THATS,THAT.

      WHAT WAS THAT DECISION?

      THEY "CLOSED" FOR BASEBALL WITHOUT ACTUALLY "CLOSING."

      THAT BEING SAID.

      DO YOU KNOW ABOUT C.R.I.S. AND OLYMPIC SPORTS?

      ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THEIR LOFTY STANDING IN THE OFF-SHORE INDUSTRY?

      THIS MIGHT ALL BE A BIG MIS-UNDERSTANDING IF YOU REALLY DONT KNOW WHERE THESE BOOKS RANK IN THE OFF-SHORE INDUSTRY.

      YOUR DISTASTE ,AND RIGHTLY SO FOR THE 20 CENT LINE MAY HAVE LED YOU TO POST AS YOU DID REGARDING THESE TWO BOOKS LOSING CUSTOMERS AND TARNISHING THEIR REPUTATIONS WITHOUT KNOWING WHO AND WHAT THEY ARE.

      THAT IS THE CRUX OF MY ARGUMENT.

      THEY OPEN FIRST,THEY TAKE A GOOD BET AND THEIR LINE HAS TREMENDOUS VALUE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

      AM I CORRECT THAT YOU JUST THOUGHT THESE WERE JUST TWO RUN OF THE MILL OFF-SHORE BOOKS WHO THOUGHT THEY WOULD TRY TO GET OVER WITH A 20 CENT BASEBALL LINE OR DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THESE TWO SHOPS AND THEIR REPUTATION?

      REALITY

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      • #4
        Reality:

        I'm fully aware of both shops. How could anyone reading these boards not be when you're in here (and other places) tooting the horn for them all the time?

        There's a lot to admire about both Cris and Olympic, but I stand by my assessment. I think using a 20¢ line in baseball will cost them money, and their good reputation will continue to be tarnished as long as they stay with that line.

        Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so. Guess we'll see who was right in a couple of years.

        This has gone on WAY past the point of sensibility. Everyone is aware of your opinions. Now they are aware of mine. They can all make up their own mind. Let's move on.

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