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  • BOOTS & EGGNOG,CONSPIRACY OR COINCIDENCE???

    Originally posted by Boots:
    BOOTS,
    YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

    BOOTS/REALITY THE SEQUEL WOULD SERVE NO PURPOSE BUT TO BORE THE FORUM MEMBERS HERE TO TEARS...

    PASS!

    REALITY

    Thank you Reality. I will let you know when you need to be reprimanded again. As I'm sure you will do the same. But save the conspiracy garbage.

    BOOTS,

    YOUR RIGHT!

    HERE'S YOUR REPRIMAND.

    LET'S SEE YOUR PATHETIC SPIN TO WEASEL YOUR WAY OUT OF THIS...

    Boots
    Wiseguy
    Member # 3508
    posted 08-07-2001 05:59 PM

    Originally posted by Boots:

    Reality,

    I didn't even read your original post in this thread because YOU BORE THE SHIT OUT OF ME.

    But I did notice you claim that I'm in cahoots with EggNog in some wild conspiracy to discredit you.

    Well I have a couple things to say about that.

    1) YOU'RE PARANOID

    2) I HAVE NO IDEA WHO EGGNOGG IS, NOR DO I CARE.

    3) YOU'RE JUST A FLIPPANT SCREEN NAME

    4) YOU RUN SCARED OF POSTING WHO YOU ARE, OR IP'S, OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE YOU CLAIM FEDS...YET THE COMPUTER YOU WRITE IS BETTER THAN A FINGER PRINT FOR THE FEDS. IDIOT.

    5) WHEN ONE EXPECTS THEIR SELF PROMOTED CLAIMS OF HAVING CREDIBILITY TO BE BELIEVED, THEY SHOULD AT LEAST STOP FROM RANTING LIKE A BABY THAT SOMEONE IS IN CAHOOTS WITH ANOTHER TO CONSPIRE AGAINST YOU WHEN YOU HAVE ABSOLUTE NO PROOF THAT EGG AND I ARE TOGETHER. AND WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO OBTAIN PROOF FOR THAT CLAIM. GUARANFVCKINGTEED!

    6) YOU'RE JUST A BIG FLIPPANT BABY.

    7) YOU DO A FINE JOB OF DISCREDITING YOURSELF, ALL BY YOURSELF.

    8) YOU'RE BORING. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
    egg nog
    Wiseguy
    Member # 3434
    posted 08-08-2001 09:44 AM

    Originally posted by egg nog:

    i won't waste anymore time with boreality, other than to state that i don't know boots or mas x menos or any of the other alleged co conspiritors. just a man with an opinion that reality can't deal with.
    THE FOLLOWING FACTS WHICH PROVE BOOTS AND EGG NOG CONSPIRED TO ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT REALITY AND C.R.I.S./OPTION IS FOR THEIR EYES ONLY, AS THIS IS NOT INTENDED TO BORE OR ANNOY THE MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM.

    ANYBODY WHO HAS FOLLOWED THIS SAGA IN THE PAST IS OF COURSE FREE TO EXAMINE THE FACTS WHICH WILL CLEARLY SHOW THAT BOOTS AND EGG NOG WERE INDEED CO-CONSPIRATORS WHOSE AGENDA WAS TO DISCREDIT C.R.I.S. FOR TAKING OPTION SPORTS UNDER THEIR UMBRELLA AND REALITY FOR NOT THROWING HIS FRIENDS UNDER THE BUS.

    BOOTS HAD A VESTED INTEREST IN OPTION SPORTS WHICH IS NOW UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF C.R.I.S.

    BOOTS ENGAGED IN NUMEROUS UNSCRUPULOUS ACTS IN HIS ATTEMPT TO OUST THE B.M.RUNNING THE SHOW FOR HIM.

    IT WOULD BE IN POOR TASTE TO REHASH THOSE ACTS HERE.

    IN ALL HONESTY BOTH SIDES WERE AT FAULT HERE AND THERE WAS MORE THAN ENOUGH BLAME TO GO AROUND FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.

    HERE IS THE CLIFF NOTE VERSION OF THE EVENTS FOR ANYONE WONDERING IF THIS WAS INDEED A CONSPIRACY.

    HERE IS THE BOOTS/EGG NOG CONSPIRACY TIME LINE:

    5/01/01:OPTION SPORTS NEEDS FUNDS TO CONTINUE THEIR OPERATION.

    5/14/01:OPTION SPORTS STILL NEEDS FUNDS TO CONTINUE THEIR OPERATION.NUMEROUS PROMISES TO THE INDIVIDUAL RUNNING OPTION THAT THE FUNDS ARE FORTHCOMING ARE NOT KEPT.IT IS APPARENT THAT A PLAN IS AFOOT TO OUST THE INDIVIDUAL RUNNING THE SHOW THERE.

    5/21/01(APPROX.)WORD GET'S OUT THAT REPRESENTATIVES OF C.R.I.S. HAVE TOURED THE OPERATION AND ARE CONSIDERING TAKING OPTION SPORTS UNDER THEIR WING.

    5/27/01(APPROX.) C.R.I.S.TAKES OPTION SPORTS UNDER THEIR UMBRELLA.

    5/28/01 EGG NOG REGISTERS AT BW:

    Profile for egg nog
    Member Status: Wiseguy
    Member Number: 3434
    Registered: 05-28-2001
    Posts: 28
    Homepage:

    6/08/01 AT 1:10 P.M. THE SHRINK POSTS THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT ON BEHALF OF C.R.I.S.:


    OPTION SPORTS IS NOW UNDER CRIS UMBRELLA
    ---------------------------------------------
    I just spoke with CRIS management regarding all the rumors...

    1)OPTIONS will fall under the CRIS umbrella with all the guarantees that customers of CRIS enjoy...

    2)OPTIONS will continue to run under the same management team as before...

    3)OPTIONS will still remain a SEPARATE entity with different lines, perks, etc...

    4)None of the name calling will be addressed because CRIS doesn't believe in dirtying the names of friends...

    5)CRIS management feels that if you can't help your friends, then who can you help? Everyone on here should be able to relate and respect this position....

    Thanks,

    THE SHRINK

    6/22/01:REALITY MAKES THE FOLLOWING POST:

    Author Topic: QUESTION FOR STIFFED PLAYERS???
    REALITY
    Wiseguy
    Member # 1962
    posted 06-22-2001 02:33 AM

    Originally posted by REALITY:

    IF YOUR BOOK WENT BELLY UP AND A BOOK WITH AN UNBLEMISHED REPUTATION FOR PAYMENT MADE YOU THE FOLLOWING OFFER,WOULD YOU ACCEPT IT?

    MAKE A CASH DEPOSIT EQUAL TO YOUR VERIFIED BALANCE AND AGREE TO PLAY THE VERIFIED BALANCE AND YOUR DEPOSIT 10 TIMES OVER BEFORE YOU MADE A WITHDRAWL.

    EXAMPLE:

    YOU HAVE A VERIFIED BALANCE OF $5,000 DOLLARS.

    YOU SEND IN $5,000.

    YOUR BALANCE IS NOW $10,000.

    YOU MUST PUT 10 TIMES YOUR BALANCE OR A $100,000 INTO PLAY BEFORE YOU ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A PAYOUT.

    IF YOU REQUEST A PAYOUT PRIOR TO THAT TEN TIME ROLLOVER YOU WILL RECEIVE HALF OF THE WIN FIGURE AND YOU WILL FORFEIT THIS ONE TIME OFFER.

    WOULD YOU DO THIS TO SALVAGE YOUR BALANCE WITH A BOOK THAT HAS GONE BELLY UP?

    THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE MANY BOOKS ARE RELUCTANT TO GO TO THE AID OF BOOKS THAT ARE GOING UNDER BECAUSE THE *****ITY OF THE TIME THE CUSTOMERS WHO HAVE BEEN SLOW PAID OR NO PAID IMMEDIATELY WITHDRAW THEIR REINSTATED BALANCES AND THE BOOK THAT HAS SOUGHT TO SALVAGE THE PLAYERS ACCOUNTS IS LEFT HOLDING THE BAG.

    IN A CASE LIKE THIS THE BOOK WHO IS ATTEMPTING TO SALVAGE THE CUSTOMER ACCOUNTS OF A BOOK THAT IS GOING UNDER HAS AN INCENTIVE TO TAKE A SHOT REINSTATING THE CUSTOMERS ACCOUNT BALANCES BECAUSE HE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THE PLAYER THE LEVEL OF SERVICE HIS SHOP IS CAPABLE OF AS WELL AS HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO WIN THE SAME AMOUNT HE IS RISKING IN HIS ATTEMPT TO SALVAGE THE BOOK THAT IS GOING UNDER.

    SOME RESPECTED SHOPS WILL BE WATCHING YOUR REPLIES TO THIS QUESTION SO IT IS IN THE PLAYERS INTEREST TO BE LOGICAL AND ARTICULATE IN YOUR REPLY.

    REALITY
    6/22/01:C.R.I.S.MAKES THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT:

    Originally posted by Jeff:
    http://www.abcislands.com/announceme...ouncement.html


    BREAKING NEWS



    As most of our customers already know, ABC islands Sportsbook & Casino was acquired by Costa Rica International Sportsbook & Casino back in December of 1999 and has been operating within CRIS' offices and under its management ever since. CRIS has been providing *****ing, customer service, as well as total operating facilities for ABC for the past betting season and has now decided to completely integrate ABC Islands' customers before the start of this next football season. This consolidation will allow for the streamlining of customer service and *****ing operations.
    The consolidation will take place on Monday, June 25th, 2001. Your username, password, balance, and account history will continue to be managed by CRIS. All current ABC Islands customers will continue to call the same telephone numbers for both customer service and *****ing and will still enjoy the same *****ing and customer service policies as always.

    The only change will come in the form of a new website: www.betcris.com. The existing ABC Islands URL: www.abcislands.com and the ABC Islands company name have been sold to a reputable company. All current ABC Islands customers will now login to the www.betcris.com site using their same username and password as before and will now find their account balance and history on this site!

    We encourage any customers to call our customer service departament at 1-800-211-2657 if they have any questions or concerns regarding these changes. The same management and customer service team that have been managing your account will be available to answer any questions you might have, and will continue to service your account.

    We look forward to your continued patronage and are confident that you will enjoy playing with CRIS, a world leader in the sportsbook industry.

    Regards,

    The Staff & Management of CRIS

    All ABC Accounts use their same Account Number
    and Password at www.betcris.com starting today
    BOOT SEES AN OPENING TO ATTACK C.R.I.S.'S REPUTATION AND REALITY'S REPUTATION:

    6/23/01:BOOTS REGISTERS AT BW:

    Profile for Boots
    Member Status: Wiseguy
    Member Number: 3508
    Registered: 06-23-2001
    Posts: 47
    Homepage:


    BOOTS REGISTERS AND MAKES HIS FIRST POST IN BW AT 6/23/01 AT 8:04 P.M.,THE OBLIGATORY FORUM ICE-BREAKER:

    Boots
    Wiseguy
    Member # 3508
    posted 06-23-2001 08:04 PM

    Originally posted by Boots:

    I saw them updating on instantodds for the past 2 days. I don't play there so I didn't ask them if it's going to be a regular thing or not.


    FOUND NOTHING INTERESTING TO SAY FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.

    7/O5/01:EGG NOG WHO REGISTERED ON 5/28/01 AND HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO SAY UNTIL HIS FIRST POST ON 7/05/O1,THE OBLIGATORY FORUM ICE BREAKER,A NON-REALITY RELATED POST:

    egg nog
    Wiseguy
    Member # 3434
    posted 07-05-2001 09:15 PM

    Originally posted by egg nog:

    does this mean they are no longer a licensed sportsbook? this can't be good news. the sportsbook business must not be as profitable as we think if they can't afford to operate and pay a licenising fee. will others follow?

    THE DAY BEFORE BOOT'S 1 ST POST ON 7/06/01.

    EGG NOG'S SECOND ICE BREAKER 3 MINUTES LATER AT 9:18:

    egg nog
    Wiseguy
    Member # 3434
    posted 07-05-2001 09:18 PM

    Originally posted by egg nog:

    i read where you should keep the requests under one thousand and always cash the checks. do not deposit them.

    I HEAR THE BANTER GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN TWO SPIES IN A MOVIE OR THE TWO CO-CONSPIRATORS HERE:

    EGG NOG TO BOOTS:I'M IN, OVER...

    BOOTS TO EGG NOG:WAIT FOR ME,I'LL BE THERE SHORTLY,WILL RENDEVOUS AT THE Topic: Cris has 5cent baseball posted 07-06-2001 03:47 A.M.,OVER, AND OUT!

    OF EGG NOG'S SPLENDID 28 POSTS 15 0F THEM HAVE BEEN IN A THREAD WHERE REALITY HAS POSTED.

    THAT'S 54% OF HIS POSTS.

    OFF EGG NOG'S SPLENDID 28 POSTS 10 OF THEM HAVE BEEN IN A THREAD WHERE BOOT'S HAS POSTED.

    THAT'S 36% OF HIS POSTS.

    7/06/01:BOOTS SECOND POST IN BW,THE REINFORCEMENTS HAVE ARRIVED AND "OPERATION AGENDA" IS IN FULL SWING:

    Boots
    Wiseguy
    Member # 3508
    posted 07-06-2001 03:47 AM

    [quote]Originally posted by Boots:
    REALITY,

    These people are paid to say these things. Could you please save this stuff for a banner ad? I'm sure the other advertisers would appreciate it, as well as the netizens.

    btw, do these guys get the 5cent line or the ones Cris's loyal customers get, a 20cent line?

    BOOTS THEN GOES ON TO CLAIM THAT THIS REALITY POST WHICH HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH C.R.I.S./OPTION, WAS CRIS/OPTIONS IDEA TO SEE IF THEY COULD BILK THE PLAYERS:

    Author Topic: QUESTION FOR STIFFED PLAYERS???
    REALITY
    Wiseguy
    Member # 1962
    posted 06-22-2001 02:33 AM

    Originally posted by REALITY:
    [QB]
    IF YOUR BOOK WENT BELLY UP AND A BOOK WITH AN UNBLEMISHED REPUTATION FOR PAYMENT MADE YOU THE FOLLOWING OFFER,WOULD YOU ACCEPT IT?

    MAKE A CASH DEPOSIT EQUAL TO YOUR VERIFIED BALANCE AND AGREE TO PLAY THE VERIFIED BALANCE AND YOUR DEPOSIT 10 TIMES OVER BEFORE YOU MADE A WITHDRAWL.

    EXAMPLE:

    YOU HAVE A VERIFIED BALANCE OF $5,000 DOLLARS.

    YOU SEND IN $5,000.

    YOUR BALANCE IS NOW $10,000.

    YOU MUST PUT 10 TIMES YOUR BALANCE OR A $100,000 INTO PLAY BEFORE YOU ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A PAYOUT.

    IF YOU REQUEST A PAYOUT PRIOR TO THAT TEN TIME ROLLOVER YOU WILL RECEIVE HALF OF THE WIN FIGURE AND YOU WILL FORFEIT THIS ONE TIME OFFER.

    WOULD YOU DO THIS TO SALVAGE YOUR BALANCE WITH A BOOK THAT HAS GONE BELLY UP?

    THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE MANY BOOKS ARE RELUCTANT TO GO TO THE AID OF BOOKS THAT ARE GOING UNDER BECAUSE THE *****ITY OF THE TIME THE CUSTOMERS WHO HAVE BEEN SLOW PAID OR NO PAID IMMEDIATELY WITHDRAW THEIR REINSTATED BALANCES AND THE BOOK THAT HAS SOUGHT TO SALVAGE THE PLAYERS ACCOUNTS IS LEFT HOLDING THE BAG.

    IN A CASE LIKE THIS THE BOOK WHO IS ATTEMPTING TO SALVAGE THE CUSTOMER ACCOUNTS OF A BOOK THAT IS GOING UNDER HAS AN INCENTIVE TO TAKE A SHOT REINSTATING THE CUSTOMERS ACCOUNT BALANCES BECAUSE HE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THE PLAYER THE LEVEL OF SERVICE HIS SHOP IS CAPABLE OF AS WELL AS HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO WIN THE SAME AMOUNT HE IS RISKING IN HIS ATTEMPT TO SALVAGE THE BOOK THAT IS GOING UNDER.

    SOME RESPECTED SHOPS WILL BE WATCHING YOUR REPLIES TO THIS QUESTION SO IT IS IN THE PLAYERS INTEREST TO BE LOGICAL AND ARTICULATE IN YOUR REPLY.

    REALITY
    7/07/01:BOOTS NOW ON THE ATTACK CLAIMING REALITY IS SHILLING FOR C.R.I.S./OPTION.

    Boots
    Wiseguy
    Member # 3508
    posted 07-07-2001 01:51 PM

    Originally posted by Boots:
    Was the attempt to make players match their account, play it 10x's by Cris/Option?

    Yes or no please.

    If not than, who?

    Direct answer please.

    If you cannot answer direct, it's clear to see that you don't have the best interest of the player in mind. Which constitues you as a SHILL. Can it be any clearer?

    7/10/01:LOOKING MORE FOOLISH WE EACH PASSING DAY AND IN HIS ATTEMPT TO BESMEERCH C.R.I.S.'S REPUTATION HE ALLEDGEDS C.R.I.S. HAD TO SELL ABC ISLANDS BECAUSE THEY NEEDED THE CASH:

    Boots
    Wiseguy
    Member # 3508
    posted 07-10-2001 04:43 AM

    Originally posted by Boots:
    Sounds more like liquidating instead of consolidating. :D Any ways, thanks for the response, but nobody really expected you to say "Hey we had to gove up ABC because we owed a ***** debt we could cover with cash."

    FACTS:

    It took 5 days for Cris to come up with a response to a simple question.

    Reality claims to be a personal consultant of Cris who has put deals together in the past.

    Reality blasts the forum with Cris this and Cris that in the wake of rumors.

    Even though they've denied this, it is highly likely the deposit and 10x's play was the Option/Cris buyout.

    Reality spends 3 days dancing around the same simple question.

    When he finally answered the question, he answers with a Cris press release and make his first public denial on having any knowledge about ANY Cris info. Maybe slightly exaggerated, but if any not very much.

    Reality claimed that answering the questions would be akin to throwing friends under a bus. Thus proving that he WILL withold info from the public to save his bookie friends. And PROBABLY would shill for a bookie that may be in need of a little post-uppin'.

    Readers,
    You be the judge!

    ...these Boots were made for walking, and no one can say that they didn't. Today Reality these Boots...just, walked all over your tenet...|1 a2 & 3e^ a4 &| :|<<<<<<<{6}
    7/11/01:THE OTHER HALF OF THE ENTRY SHOWS UP IN THIS PATHETIC ATTEMPT TO CAUSE TROUBLE FOR C.R.I.S.:

    egg nog
    Wiseguy
    Member # 3434
    posted 07-11-2001 11:05 PM

    Originally posted by egg nog:

    wasn't it was cris who called the famous meeting in costa rica last year to try to get everyone to switch to the wide line?

    i think we should pass around the collection plate before football. we need to help books like aces gold, rio, grande, wsex and jazz. reality, will you be the 1st to make a donation?
    OF BOOTS SPLENDID 45 POSTS 41 PERTAIN TO REALITY IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

    LET ME REPEAT THAT.

    OF BOOTS SPLENDID 45 POSTS 41 PERTAIN TO REALITY OR A REALITY RELATED POST.

    THAT'S 91% OF HIS POSTS.

    DO YOU THINK HE IS SUFFERING FROM AGENDAITUS?

    IN CONCLUSION DO YOU THINK:

    A. EGG NOG AND BOOTS ARE SUFFERING FROM AGENDAITUS AND WERE A TEAM OUT TO DISCREDIT C.R.I.S. FOR TAKING OPTION UNDER THEIR UMBRELLA AND REALITY FOR NOT THROWING HIS FRIENDS UNDER THE BUS?

    B.REALITY JUST LOVES A GOOD CONSPIRACY THEORY?

    C.THESE CONVERGANCE OF CIRCUMSTANCES WERE ALL JUST A COINCIDENCE?

    REALITY

  • #2
    b- reality just loves a good conspiracy theory. my only agenda is to keep people awake and alert. alert them to the flim flam that goes on before their eyes on a daily basis.
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    • #3
      Reality if you switch to the green sticky stuff with the small red and purple coloring outlining the bud instead of that cheap mexican brown dirt, you won't get that paranoia effect.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by egg nog:
        b- reality just loves a good conspiracy theory. my only agenda is to keep people awake and alert. alert them to the flim flam that goes on before their eyes on a daily basis.
        Originally posted by Boots:

        Reality if you switch to the green sticky stuff with the small red and purple coloring outlining the bud instead of that cheap mexican brown dirt, you won't get that paranoia effect.
        GENTLEMEN,

        WE ALL KNOW THE DEAL HERE.

        CONSPIRACY?

        NONE!

        O.K.IF YOU SAY SO.

        THAT'S NOT THE REAL ISSUE ANYWAY.

        WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED IN REGARDS TO THE SITUATION IS REGRETABLE.

        MORESO,FOR BOOT'S FRIEND BECAUSE OF HIS PERSONAL SITUATION.

        IT IS MY SINCERE HOPE NOW THAT WE HAVE BEAT THIS DOG TO DEATH 10 DIFFERENT WAYS THAT EVERYONE HAS GAINED THEIR "POUND OF FLESH".

        MORE IMPORTANTLY,IT IS MY SINCERE HOPE THAT THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN HURT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IN THIS FIASCO WILL BE ABLE TO,"RISE FROM THE ASHES" LIKE THE PHOENIX AND FIND SOME MEASURE OF SUCCESS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

        THIS MATTER IS NOW CLOSED.

        REALITY

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