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  • #31
    Kosar
    Or whoever you are that asked you to write this. The worst thing anyone can do is jump into a post and make comments when they dont know the whole story or what they are talking about. I challenge you right now to name any books I ever bashed. Ever. When your list includes only the ones who use the stiff rule well then i guess there is nothing else to talk about because your statement is false.
    I bashed the 3 that were brought up and will bash anymore that are brought up. This is for your protection as a bettor. So you dont get stiffed by a book using these rules. AS far as complimenting other books yes i do it often because their are a ton of good books out thier. Which leads me to think please make up your mind do i only bash books? or do i only compliment them?
    Steve

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    • #32
      Bri
      I never said you were the one who locked it. Fact is I dont know who did or until you just told me how many adminstrators there are. I just said administator. I didnt say Brian and wasnt singleing you out.
      Thanks Steve

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      • #33
        Steve, you're going way overboard with this.

        If you want to list all of the books that reserve the right to "stiff" please go right ahead.

        We simply ask that it's done in a respectable manor, and we ask that it not be used to "beat a dead horse".

        By beat a dead horse, I mean that some of these very topics have been covered over and over and over again, over the last few years, long before you ever stumbled into this forum.

        You must understand a few things. First, we have several people who have the ability to step in and "lock" a thread. This is unfortunately necessary. Had you been around over the last few years, you would understand just why this is necessary.

        At any rate, no one is ever questioned by us for closing a thread. If they feel at the time that closing the thread is necessary, then they are encouraged to do so.

        They won't be right in their judgement every time. You won't be right everytime, and I won't be right everytime.

        Remember, you represent a sportsbook. No one wants to hear a sportsbook come in and bang their chest and proclaim to be the biggest baddest book in the world.

        A book generally would let their clients do that for them.

        At any rate, the point here is this....

        I have spent the last four years building a solid reputation both personally and for this site. I have put, and continue to put countless hours into this site in a continuing effort to keep this site the number one place for all sorts of sports gaming information. I know many of your players and many of your peers. I don't think you'll find many that will say I've ever been anything other than fair.

        We will continue to run this site in the same manor in which we have been running it all along. The majority of this sites visitors appreciate the way in which this forum is run.

        People have come to learn that if they want solid, intelligent information, they can find it here. On the flip side, they also realize that if they would like to read the latest trash talk, flame war, National Inquirer tpye stuff, there are places on the net that welcome it.......Not here though.

        Your more than welcome to give your opinion on an issue, or respond to a potential Skybook client, whatever.

        But there's really no need to have threads where half the posts are from Steve at Skybook, bickering back and forth with someone to the point that it no longer even has anything to do with the original topic.

        In my experience, it's the books that conduct themselves in a professional manor, both in their day to day operations and in their public responses, that get the most respect from the players.

        A little respect goes a long way.


        You don't need to reply to this. I'm not interested in going back and forth with you.


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        • #34
          BRIan
          I remember a few weeks ago you started a topic about the kyl bill. I came in and made a joke. It may have been funny it may not have been. It was only a joke though. Phaedrus didnt like the joke and told me so. Then the thread got closed. That one too should not have been closed. As you see here Ihave no personal problem with phaedrus nor does he with me. We are all adults. None Of what i say is a personal attack ever .Its just what i feel. I assume all of us in these rorums are adults and understand the point of a forum to begin with. People will agree and disagee and that is the whole point of the forum to discuss it. It shouldnt be personal or taken as personal by anyone. I hope you didnt think i was attaking you. I wasnt . Only as always stating my opinion in an open forum. You and i didnt agree on that particular issue. Big deal. It wont be the last time im sure. These forums I feel are as good as they are to see how everyone feels
          Tlak to you later Steve

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          • #35
            Jeff
            I wish to god i had read your post before replying to Brian. You have got to be kidding me. Like i wont reply. Are you in anyway , shape , or form , trying to lead a reader (who like I said over and over again thinks that when they see admistraror that the final and only word) to think I ever said skybook was bigger or better then anyone. It was never , ever , ever said that I think Skybook is the biggest or the best. Fact is it isnt and I know that. So how dare you try to infer that. Im so shocked by you jumping in with that post I cant even remember the rest that i had to say. So ill go reread and finishmy response and then you dont have to reply because as I said I can gain nothing and only lose by going back and forth with an administrator. So please tell me anything i have Ever said that wasnt the truth
            Steve

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            • #36
              Jeff
              to finish my response the only post bickering back and forth I was ever in was with Polar. I was in the total right to defend us also. I know it , the readers know it, and you know it.
              Would you let unwarrented personal attakcs about bettorsworld go without a response .NO WAY. Besides that everything I ever say is the truth. Like i said before you may not agree but then thats what a forum is for for people to speak their minds. I of course have no issues with you , Brian , bettorsworld, Or anyone else. These are forums. I happen to like what you did with the site and agree with you it is a great one. i was waiting to see my stuff deleted for no reason today other then you guys didnt like what i had to say. I now have a much higher respect because you didnt do that and allowed me to speak.
              I still dont think it is neccessary for you administrators to jump in against me the way you have and that why I say it. If you read the readers all agree with me and want the others pointed out.
              Thats all buddy
              Im tired as hell
              Been a long day
              Take care Steve

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              • #37
                Jeff , Bri, Whoever
                You are right i wasnt around a few years ago so i wouldnt fully understand why you have to take certain steps. I am totally done with this thread and think we all beat a dead horse with each other. Please close this or lock it and we can end it.
                Tommorow is another day and we can all start over.
                Thanks Goodnight Steve

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                • #38
                  Jeff,

                  I am going to stick my small 2 cents in here.

                  Yes it is true that these subjects may been covered over and over the last 2 years, 3 years or 10 years.

                  The one thing I think you have totally disregarded is the mass amount of people to these forums haven't been here since day one.

                  For you to assume, that since these topics have been covered and everyone knows about them or has read them is totally senseless.

                  You guys know who signs up when, and who is new and who isn't. You also have the capability to see how many times a topic has been visited and for how long.

                  I would think common sense would lead you to believe that more and more people come here and become members everyday. This however doesn't mean they post.

                  I am sure you can look into your database and find 100's if not more of people that have signed up that have never posted but have yet read some of the topics.

                  If the topic is full of bullcrap then by all means lock it up and do what you must. However if it is constructive and there is truth to it, then let it be.

                  I love BW, but I have no choice but to back Skybook here, and no I am not a client of theres. I have never been to their website or talked to anyone about them.

                  However as a paying client, they have a right to come and take part in what they help pay for.

                  Let me say this the World Wrestling Federation and their smut tactics to get viewers has cost them many advertisers in the last few weeks. Companies like COCA COLA all the way to the US ARMY.

                  The WWF has a choice to change their tactics and get their clients back or go on as they are and lose more. It is the WWF's choice just as it is yours here.

                  We have heard only from SKYBOOK here, if this continues Skybook is correct you will lose business. Sure there are others line up perhaps, but to lose 1 book over such ludicrous activity is beyond comprehension to me.

                  Now if they are out of line and you dont like it, then you as the Business have the right to refund their unused money thank them for their past business and end your relationship.

                  So I suggest with no further ado, that both parties decide what they want to do, and lets move on with what this forum is for.

                  Expose frauds, tell the good sides of the business and make some $$$.

                  Isn't that what we ginvest/gamble for anyway.....

                  FREAK

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                  • #39
                    i don't agree with nasa's policy, but i think we've said enough here.

                    actually steve closed threads get read alot just out of curiousity.

                    enough said.

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