WHAT IS A BAD OR MIS-POSTED LINE???

[kosar]

Originally posted by Railbird:
A theif is a house breaker or shoplifter,not buying something or gamblimg something.It isnt like the punter has a say in the matter anyway,in the offshore game the BM is holding the cheese anyway,its his decision that is final.

I didn't catch your explanation about the airlines liability comment. If your going to chime in with (totally idiotic) solutions, at least have the balls to defend them.

If you think that buying something at a store that costs $1000 for $100 because of a clerks mistake isn't thievery, then you are as advertised.

Your attitude about 'the BM holding all the cheese' sounds pretty defeatist to me. It's strange, no WINNERS that I know have that LOSER mentality. If you win, the BM is your partner, nothing more and nothing less.

How did you get your name, anyways?

Let me guess, that's what all your 'boys' call you because you are so proficient at sticking your little, pink bony fingers up on the rail of the craps table to snatch a few chips when the blue haired ladies reach down for their purse.

Am I close?

[sportshobby]

A (Football) Side 4 points, Total 6 points

B (Basketball) Side 4 points, Total 6 points

C (Hockey) ?

D (Baseball) Side 50 cents, Total 50 cents

[This message has been edited by sportshobby (edited 03-30-2001).]

[REALITY]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kosar:

How did you get your name, anyways?

Let me guess, that's what all your 'boys' call you because you are so proficient at sticking your little, pink bony fingers up on the rail of the craps table to snatch a few chips when the blue haired ladies reach down for their purse.

Am I close?


LMFAO!

REALITY

[alec]

Originally posted by kosar:

Your attitude about 'the BM holding all the cheese' sounds pretty defeatist to me. It's strange, no WINNERS that I know have that LOSER mentality. If you win, the BM is your partner, nothing more and nothing less.

kosar,

I guess Railbird made it perfectly clear: the decision made by a bookmaker in any "bad line" dispute is final.

I don't see what it has to do with loser mentality or anything else.

It is just an obvious fact.

[hiptwo]

kosar, seems to me like you've got a mouth full and your trying to put words in other people's mouth. clerks at the local 5&10 don't set the price, they scan the tag and and ring it up. if its priced wrong not their fault but the store usualy will go with the customer. if your talking about a 900$ defference the clerks should know thats completly wrong. kind of like bm ain't it?

[Hamhog]

Take the following three hypothetical situations:

1) A baseball favorite that is listed as -1.10 that should be -1.45.

2) A baseball underdog that is listed as +2.70 that should be listed as +2.20.

3) An NFL underdog in a low total game that is listed as +3.5 but should be +2.5.

1) Is off by 35 cents.
2) Is off by 50 cents.
3) Is off by 1 point.

Rank the three mistake lines in terms of cost to the Bookmaker.

At the end of the day I don't think you can eliminate judgement from the equation.

[kosar]

Alec,

Railbird said:

"It isnt like the punter has a say in the matter anyway,in the offshore game the BM is holding the cheese anyway,its his decision that is final."


What you will find is that the 'punter' actually does have a say in each and every individual situation. If there is a trusting relationship established, ANY sort of dispute that could be interpreted several different ways will almost always be decided in favor of the player. Of course that assumes that one is playing with a reputable book. Naturally, the book does indeed have the final decision. That's obvious.

However, it works both ways. When a player goes into this thing with the attitude that there is no such thing as stealing when it comes to retail commerce or sportsbooks, that type of mentality will always be identified for what it is. Thievery. And if you think that books don't immediately identify people with this mentality, then you are more naive than you pretned to be.

Regarding middleman's case, he has stated ad nauseum that if there is a 'mistake' line put up , then they should eat it. That's bullshit.

Please don't play dumb like you are known to do. This is very clear.

Hiptwo,

You said:

"kosar, seems to me like you've got a mouth full and your trying to put words in other people's mouth. clerks at the local 5&10 don't set the price, they scan the tag and and ring it up. if its priced wrong not their fault but the store usualy will go with the customer. if your talking about a 900$ defference the clerks should know thats completly wrong. kind of like bm ain't it?"

I'm not putting words in anybody's mouth. I am well aware that clerks don't set prices. But they do generate and attach tags/stickers..whatever to any merchandise. They are prone to mistakes, like anybody else.

Railbird mentioned that there is no such thing stealing when it comes to shopping. I disagree. Apparently you don't.

If said clerk mis-places a decimal point and attaches a tag that says the price is $100 for a suit that actually costs $1000, is it right to take the store to task?

Would you expect the store to 'honor the line'? I wouldn't. Railbird would. Would you?

It's all here in black and white, buddy. So you can save the 'putting words in peoples mouths' BS.

[alec]

Originally posted by kosar:
Alec,

Please don't play dumb like you are known to do.

kosar,

What did you mean by that? I would appreciate if you clarify it.

On this "bad line" rule.

It is not even a rule, since it is impossible to define what a "bad line" is. It just says that a book reserves the right to cancel bets.

Do I think that a book should pay for every typo? Honestly, I am not sure.

I used to work for a sports book and we paid for this kind of mistakes. And yes, it was not my money.

I believe that it would be ideal, if there were some third party trusted by both bettors and books, which were able to settle such disputes.

I believe that such thing exists in Australia, for example. But I understand that it is impossible in the case of Caribbean books.

[Railbird]

Reality,

Whats this crap about its hard to tell what Julia Roberts line was the bad one because its not on Don Best,

What would you do without Don Best?

So which 1 one was the bad line? which 1 sticks out like the sore thumb? is it the -2500 or the -450?

[Railbird]

a thief is a bookmaker that deals a 20cent baseball line.

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by kosar


I didn't catch your explanation about the airlines liability comment. If your going to chime in with (totally idiotic) solutions, at least have the balls to defend them.

If you think that buying something at a store that costs $1000 for $100 because of a clerks mistake isn't thievery, then you are as advertised.

Your attitude about 'the BM holding all the cheese' sounds pretty defeatist to me. It's strange, no WINNERS that I know have that LOSER mentality. If you win, the BM is your partner, nothing more and nothing less.

How did you get your name, anyways?

Let me guess, that's what all your 'boys' call you because you are so proficient at sticking your little, pink bony fingers up on the rail of the craps table to snatch a few chips when the blue haired ladies reach down for their purse.

Am I close?

Apologies to Railbird but this is one of my favorite posts from the Book Of Kosar...