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**xbigpappa** · 10-16-2007, 02:43 PM

Jason, I hope u have a record of all those who have push's, I can promise YOU that it WILL matter IN the end!

**Jason Daubenspeck** · 10-16-2007, 02:49 PM

I don't have them. The original rules as I read them said most wins, and then another type of contest would be used to break ties if needed. If someone wants to run back over the old picks and post them, I will keep track from here on if needed. As of now, I haven't kept them.

**dragon1952** · 10-16-2007, 02:53 PM

I'll do it today.

**Jason Daubenspeck** · 10-16-2007, 03:08 PM

I have them for this past week, week 6. You would just need weeks 1-5.

**dragon1952** · 10-16-2007, 05:27 PM

OK, I just went ahead and did it for all 6 weeks while I was at it.
If anyone thinks I missed one of their pushes and you would like credit for it just let me know. If anyone would like to dispute one of the pushes I have annotated let me know also. If you would like to know what game(s) you pushed on I would be glad to tell you but that's too much information for me to cut and paste right now. I have this sorted by member name followed by number of pushes.

aakj - 1
aprechtel - 1
Augustus - 1
azbob - 1
bigbad302 1
bigdogdan2 - 1
CapperMaster - 2
Clarity - 1
daddyd - 1
dallascowboys78 - 1
Dawg2 - 1
dideh - 1
dog - 1
Drew - 1
Dr Ray - 1
Executioner Sports - 2
EseDINK - 1
freakbrothers - 1
gamester - 1
gottabet - 1
hiptwo - 1
Ice Cream Man - 1
Jason Daubenspeck - 2
JMadden - 1
joecool333 - 1
knightrider - 2
krc - 2
LSUDog - 1
Nostradamus - 2
OctavianII - 1
owlthe3rd - 1
QUlCKSlLVER - 1
red raider 84 - 1
RLance - 1
Russ B - 1
sakras - 1
ScooterSteve - 2
soli - 1
Swany - 2
Swicat - 1
TheBlackCat - 1
THE BOY - 2
The Boys - 1
WAYWARDWlN - 1
widestrides - 1
winandwin - 2
wisconsin5473 - 1
xbigpappa - 1
yellowdragon - 1

**Jason Daubenspeck** · 10-16-2007, 05:50 PM

Got them, thanks!

**xbigpappa** · 10-16-2007, 08:53 PM

not trying to change the rules of the game, but i recommend that u count them as half points. That would be the easiest way to break ties.

**hart attack** · 10-17-2007, 12:33 AM

OK, now I have a question...

Why are we even talking about pushes? The rules clearly state that the winner will be the one with the most wins. Pushes are not wins and have NO value in this contest the way these rules are set up. Am I reading this correctly?

Now if the rules have been changed or altered and I have missed it, please disregard this post.

**dragon1952** · 10-17-2007, 01:11 AM

OK, there are 16 games. What if 2 people tie with 14 wins but one of them is actually 14-1-1 and the other one is 14-2? Why should a loss count the same as a push? I like the half-point idea but really I don't think it matters as long as 14-1-1 beats 14-2, it would work out the same. Also, you could have 5 people with 10 wins but you could have the following records:
10-6
10-5-1
10-4-2
10-3-3
10-2-4
10-1-5

Who wins? Why should the guy with 6 losses be the same as the guy with only 1 loss? Dig? I believe that's the way the contest has worked in the past.

**xbigpappa** · 10-17-2007, 06:26 AM

Historically, Heart Attack is a trouble maker, i remember when he started shyt back in 2000 with another player at the end of the NFL contest.

**Jason Daubenspeck** · 10-17-2007, 02:37 PM

Troublemaker or not means nothing, that is the way I interpreted the rules also from the start. It said most wins, that is why I didn't keep track of the pushes, as far as I knew when reading the rules a loss is the same as a push.
We now have the pushes recorded. As far as I heard last, it would be used in the case of tiebreakers, but nothing in terms of a half point. I have the most pushes in the contest, so it would effect me most, but I simply had disregarded them in the past.
Here's what was posted by BW before "If you have the ties, that will be the first tie breaker. As was mentioned, 10-3-3 would beat 10-6." That is what I am now going with

**widestrides** · 10-18-2007, 11:28 AM

Jason,

So now that you have the ties, it would be good to post the full record in the standings and list folks in that order. Then no one will be surprised in the end.

So list someone at 3-2-1 ahead of someone at 3-3.

**Jason Daubenspeck** · 10-18-2007, 12:38 PM

NAME --- WINS --- PUSHES
Bubbaloko --- 5 --- 0
KJALB --- 5 --- 0
Winandwin --- 4 --- 2
Clarity --- 4 --- 1
Daddyd --- 4 --- 1
QUICKSILVER --- 4 --- 1
Xbigpappa --- 4 --- 1
Boone Moone --- 4 --- 0
BuckOrTwo --- 4 --- 0
Daddydan --- 4 --- 0
Hart attack --- 4 --- 0
Jpehl --- 4 --- 0
Khandor --- 4 --- 0
LuckyL --- 4 --- 0
ROTOG --- 4 --- 0
UK Blitz --- 4 --- 0
Knightrider --- 3 --- 2
Krc --- 3 --- 2
Augustus --- 3 --- 1
Bigdogdan2 --- 3 --- 1
Freakbrothers --- 3 --- 1
Gamester --- 3 --- 1
Gottabet --- 3 --- 1
Russ B --- 3 --- 1
Widestrides --- 3 --- 1
ALLSPORT --- 3 --- 0
Barone --- 3 --- 0
Bedrmbby --- 3 --- 0
Bernval --- 3 --- 0
Bob Stoops --- 3 --- 0
Bobomax --- 3 --- 0
CHUD --- 3 --- 0
Ddawg --- 3 --- 0
Dinger --- 3 --- 0
Dragon1952 --- 3 --- 0
Dustyduke --- 3 --- 0
Krichinsky --- 3 --- 0
MAKO --- 3 --- 0
Normcash --- 3 --- 0
Seabee --- 3 --- 0
Ssantam --- 3 --- 0
The Guesser --- 3 --- 0
WhatNot --- 3 --- 0
Woodee12 --- 3 --- 0
Executioner Sports --- 2 --- 2
Jason Daubenspeck --- 2 --- 2
Swany --- 2 --- 2
The Boy --- 2 --- 2
Azbob --- 2 --- 1
Dawg2 --- 2 --- 1
Dog --- 2 --- 1
Dr Ray --- 2 --- 1
Hiptwo --- 2 --- 1
Jmadden --- 2 --- 1
Owlthe3rd --- 2 --- 1
Soli --- 2 --- 1
Swicat --- 2 --- 1
TheBlackCat --- 2 --- 1
176485 --- 2 --- 0
Bill Drake --- 2 --- 0
Chevy-37 --- 2 --- 0
Codydan --- 2 --- 0
Fbrenner --- 2 --- 0
Jsmith --- 2 --- 0
Kbhirsch --- 2 --- 0
Monroe Eaford --- 2 --- 0
Myersie --- 2 --- 0
Patlives --- 2 --- 0
ShawNee922 --- 2 --- 0
TonyDiamond --- 2 --- 0
Toopieaire --- 2 --- 0
Wizard --- 2 --- 0
CapperMaster --- 1 --- 2
Bigbad302 --- 1 --- 1
Dallascowboys78 --- 1 --- 1
Drew --- 1 --- 1
EseDINK --- 1 --- 1
Ice Cream Man --- 1 --- 1
LSUDog --- 1 --- 1
Red raider 84 --- 1 --- 1
Rlance --- 1 --- 1
Sakras --- 1 --- 1
WAYWARDWIN --- 1 --- 1
Wisconsin5473 --- 1 --- 1
Aprechtel --- 1 --- 0
Bill47 --- 1 --- 0
Butkus --- 1 --- 0
Cajen2 --- 1 --- 0
Dballs --- 1 --- 0
DRNOBLE11 --- 1 --- 0
Flash --- 1 --- 0
Garister --- 1 --- 0
Godless1 --- 1 --- 0
Hungtran --- 1 --- 0
Iget2ps --- 1 --- 0
JD9587 --- 1 --- 0
Jjvoit --- 1 --- 0
Jpr24628 --- 1 --- 0
JustOneMore --- 1 --- 0
KatePSU --- 1 --- 0
Kdawg --- 1 --- 0
PimpinAintEz --- 1 --- 0
Sdragon --- 1 --- 0
Simsity19 --- 1 --- 0
Taxman --- 1 --- 0
The best capper --- 1 --- 0
Vegasbum --- 1 --- 0
Yomote --- 1 --- 0
Nostradamus --- 0 --- 2
ScooterSteve --- 0 --- 2
Aakj --- 0 --- 1
Dideh --- 0 --- 1
Joecool333 --- 0 --- 1
OctavianII --- 0 --- 1
The Boys --- 0 --- 1
Yellowdragon --- 0 --- 1
Bandit7 --- 0 --- 0
BOBBYW --- 0 --- 0
Bruin --- 0 --- 0
Budmc10 --- 0 --- 0
Casinocappers --- 0 --- 0
Dkp --- 0 --- 0
Kooster747 --- 0 --- 0
Masterdummy --- 0 --- 0
Mongi --- 0 --- 0
Noname --- 0 --- 0
Papachippy --- 0 --- 0
Pegasus --- 0 --- 0
Rick --- 0 --- 0
Spang --- 0 --- 0
Tnt --- 0 --- 0
Vi3tboizz --- 0 --- 0

**jpehl** · 10-18-2007, 12:46 PM

Just wanted to say thank you, I can imagine this has been a hassle.
jpehl

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